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May 2013
8:08am, 11 May 2013
25,281 posts
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Velociraptor
That's disappointing, JB  And, I hope, an unusual experience.
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May 2013
9:35am, 11 May 2013
1,267 posts
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Helegant
Radio 4 right now - listen
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May 2013
9:35am, 11 May 2013
1,268 posts
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Helegant
"we spend so much time trying to change these children..."
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May 2013
9:44am, 11 May 2013
12,026 posts
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*jono*
missed the R4 programme - probably watching the *Desrt Rats* with J Jnr - he has a thing for black & white films: R4 are very good with programmes about ASD - Joe repeats himself; he also copies the behaviour of other children in his class - I think this is because he struggles to find a calming mechanisim.
And yes we shouldn't be trying change the children - we shouldbe spending time helping them understand the world they are in - although there are some things that go right over Joe's head:.
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May 2013
9:47am, 11 May 2013
25,285 posts
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Velociraptor
Interesting point there, Helegant. I didn't hear the broadcast and don't know what angle the speaker was coming from, but ... try to change these children or not? Accept them as they are, knowing that they can't be guaranteed that acceptance everywhere they go, or try to help them become more "ordinary" because it'll give them an easier passage through life?
I shuddered a bit when a teacher told me proudly that she and some of the more approved-of children in the class had managed to make my oldest daughter, then aged about five, "more like the other little girls". This was before the lass was diagnosed as having Asperger syndrome. But over the years, my daughter chose to put a great deal of effort into training out her own autistic traits.
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May 2013
9:51am, 11 May 2013
12,027 posts
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*jono*
I don't think thats bad V'rap - but it much come with alot of support, I've found with Joe that he's improved with age - you seem to have a few more little victories as time passes.
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May 2013
9:55am, 11 May 2013
6,597 posts
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Chicken Licken
The education system is harsh and often adds to children with ASD......
I will NEVER forget being told big birds was the worst behaved child the ed psych had ever seen..... or the arguing with a headmaster as my son who was 8-9 at the time had been left in a classroom on his own, whilst others were out at play .... (prior to that he'd been excluded from school 4 times) had set the fire alarms off, after smashing the glass panel - big birds response, smash glass in case of emergency.... mum it was an emergency.... I laughed so much when the school told me I had to pay for the replacement glass.... I did remind them my son had a one to one statement and where was that support worker or even the class teacher?
Still makes me very angry - the way big bird was treated
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May 2013
10:01am, 11 May 2013
12,029 posts
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*jono*
been there chicken - thank fullly we found a good school for joe to attend. What I find difficult to get my head round though is that you have all these educated people who can't or don't want to tackle ASD - yet me amd Mrs J have to learn about ASD and sort out the best thing for Joe's eduction!
Anyway must go shirts to iron!
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May 2013
10:24am, 11 May 2013
2,443 posts
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Tracey G
Chicken - I find you have to laugh or you'd end up a basket case.
On Monday I found Andre standing up in the wash basin in our shower room because he wanted a bath and we don't have one.
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May 2013
10:25am, 11 May 2013
2,444 posts
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Tracey G
We have posted notes on our washing machine because he wants a Hotpoint and not a Miele.
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