Sep 2023
10:18am, 20 Sep 2023
31,317 posts
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Maclennane
sets of 15 though! Wouldn't like to speculate how low I'd have to go for that!
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Sep 2023
1:38pm, 20 Sep 2023
47,778 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
I read somewhere that even for strength and muscle gain, higher reps and lower weight can be beneficial. Contrary to the received wisdom of low reps high weight. Probably guff! Anyway, mostly just doing it for general S&C rather than muscle build. 3 x 15s on everything, usually to failure, though need to go up a bit on pull downs. G
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Sep 2023
1:45pm, 20 Sep 2023
31,318 posts
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Maclennane
I've seen both touted as the only way to go. My 5x5s are working for me at the moment, the only thing is that 5 sets takes bloody ages
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Sep 2023
1:56pm, 20 Sep 2023
42,706 posts
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SPR
Muscle build guys (bodybuilders) generally do high reps. The strength guys do lower reps.
I'd go with what strength guys do until something changes, if higher reps were the way to go (once you have decent experience) they'd be loads of them doing it.
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Sep 2023
1:58pm, 20 Sep 2023
42,707 posts
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SPR
There's obviously a continuum though nothing is all.
Anyway one of the benefits of high weight/ low reps for me is less soreness.
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Sep 2023
2:44pm, 20 Sep 2023
41,260 posts
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Nellers
My (limited) understanding is that lower reps means you don’t get the same muscle mass gain(z) but the higher weight means you get the strength.
I was told that it would surprise many people how much Mo Farah or any one of the top Kenyan or Ethiopian distance runners could squat for one to 3 reps without needing huge quads.
Again, I suspect it’s a bit more complicated than that but 5 x 5 with as much weight as I can manage seems to be working here too.
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Sep 2023
3:24pm, 20 Sep 2023
47,782 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
I just don't like big weights! Feel silly, and as I'm working solo seems dangerous. G
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Sep 2023
3:37pm, 20 Sep 2023
41,261 posts
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Nellers
I have had the same fears, G. I’m very cautious with my weight increases because if I have to bail out of, say, a back squat the bar is going other landing on the treadmill or the rower (or my neck!).
My boys have been trying to push me to go up in bigger jumps but I’m happy just ticking up slowly and regularly.
(My old 1 inch barbell and weights mean I can go up in 2.5kg, 1.5kg or in extreme cases 1kg jumps and I do!)
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Sep 2023
3:46pm, 20 Sep 2023
42,708 posts
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SPR
I don't get the feel silly comment.
Big is relative and you don't have to be at your limit. Working to failure whatever your rep scheme is what makes weight dangerous in general on your own I'd say.
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Sep 2023
3:53pm, 20 Sep 2023
42,709 posts
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SPR
I believe Farah was squatting 1.5 body weight for 5 reps?
I got up to that pre lockdown, I was injured at the time. Interestingly at the time, I'd stopped squatting for a while and was deadlifting and Olympic lifting. When I returned to squatting, the first session my legs were extremely confused but I made progress following that quickly.
We'll see where I get to this winter. Seems harder to get back consistently after track season these days.
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