20mile races in marathon build-ups

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Gobi
Gobi
Feb 2012
3:10pm, 16 Feb 2012
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Gobi
Loca - I don't remember feeling too good afterwards either but I did run 74 mins and come 3rd :¬)

I like my last 20 3 weeks out to have MP in it but not a crazy amount, about 8 miles.
Loca
Loca
Feb 2012
3:20pm, 16 Feb 2012
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Loca
you blokes are all nutters! :-P ;-)
Gobi
Gobi
Feb 2012
4:03pm, 16 Feb 2012
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Gobi
Sometimes you just can't help it :¬)

As a coach though you advise helping it .......
flanker
flanker
Feb 2012
4:20pm, 16 Feb 2012
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flanker
Some good advice here. My approach is similar to yours contro - first five slow, build up to MP and hold 5-15, push the last 5 towards HMP. I find the mental gains from knowing I have so much left over the last 5 when people are fading really help mentally with the last 5 of a mara.

Maybe I'll manage to follow the plan at Oakley this year rather than doing the first 10 sub PMP cos I was yacking away in a group rather than watching my pace :-(

Or I may race Oakley and treat London as a training run, seeing as Windermere is my PB attempt for the year.
Loca
Loca
Feb 2012
4:54pm, 16 Feb 2012
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Loca
Come on Flanker - it's THE marathon, you can't just do it as a training run :-P
flanker
flanker
Feb 2012
7:01pm, 16 Feb 2012
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flanker
but it's longer than the other marathons :(
rf_fozzy
rf_fozzy
Feb 2012
10:02pm, 16 Feb 2012
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rf_fozzy
There are other marathons?
DeeGee
DeeGee
Feb 2012
10:17pm, 16 Feb 2012
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DeeGee
Of course there are other marathons. There's the Great North Run! I think that's about half as long as London.
clare1976
clare1976
Feb 2012
9:15pm, 19 Feb 2012
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clare1976
Just read this back, really useful advice thank u. want a plan for ashby 20 which is 5 weeks before vlm. only prob is i have no idea what my pmp should be! Hoping to get a realistic idea in next few weeks so i can use ashby properly.
The_Saint
The_Saint
Feb 2012
5:58pm, 20 Feb 2012
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The_Saint
Obviously everyone is different but the more 20 mile races I do, the happier I am on the Marathon day, totally unrelated to this, I have a 20 Mile race handy if anyone wants one :)

About This Thread

Maintained by rf_fozzy
I'm interested in what people think about them - do you do them? How do you run them

Advice from Gobi:

5 miles @ MP + 60-90( time to get loose so start close to 90 and work down)
5 miles @ MP + 45-60
5 miles @ MP + 30-45
4 miles @ MP
1 mile however you like
1 mile cool down

The 1 mile cool down came into force as I discovered coaching nobody wants to back off at 19miles and look like they have blown up so we invented the go race the last mile and then do a cool down rule

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