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LindsD Jun 2020 11:29am, 20 Jun 2020 38,151 posts	0 LindsD I do feel there are the ones that are 'straightforward' e.g. Crow Road, Complicity and those that are harder work like Song of Stone and Walking on Glass. I saw a play version of Wasp Factory and reread it. I enjoyed it then in a totally different way.
McGoohan Jun 2020 11:31am, 20 Jun 2020 45,831 posts	0 McGoohan I didn't get on much with Song of Stone when I first read it, but my second read I found it much more enjoyable. I've found that a bit with some of his non-M 'allegorical ones'.
LindsD Jun 2020 11:33am, 20 Jun 2020 38,153 posts	0 LindsD Yes, me too. Song of Stone was so brutal that I'm a bit scared to go back to it. I didn't see the point of Dead Air.
McGoohan Jun 2020 11:34am, 20 Jun 2020 45,833 posts	0 McGoohan I think he was trying to 'say something' in the wake of 9/11 but the basic story is hard-men gangsters so it didn't sit well. It's not my fave though it's entertaining enough. I think I'm going to have to read The Crow Road again. I love that book.
snayak Jun 2020 11:36am, 20 Jun 2020 405 posts	0 snayak Nice list McG. I love Banks! I've read the Culture series and Wasp Factory. I would say Excession is my favourite.
Too Much Water Jun 2020 11:43am, 20 Jun 2020 7,426 posts	0 Too Much Water I think I must only like the “straightforward” ones!
LindsD Jun 2020 11:45am, 20 Jun 2020 38,155 posts	0 LindsD Yes it (DA) was obviously an answer of sorts to 9/11.
LindsD Jun 2020 11:45am, 20 Jun 2020 38,156 posts	0 LindsD *response
Wriggling Snake Jun 2020 12:00pm, 20 Jun 2020 27,266 posts	0 Wriggling Snake 3 I think, might be one or two more, erased thankfully, I reckon Consider Phlebas did it for me, it was utter bollocks
Wriggling Snake Jun 2020 12:02pm, 20 Jun 2020 27,267 posts	0 Wriggling Snake I think I have read all the fiction ones except maybe the last, Song of Stone was just a nothing book, he'd run out of ideas, no idea what he was saying, fair enough by then though. Dead Air was poor too.