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What's your view on someone who believes Earth is being or has been visited by UFOs/UAP's

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Dec 2024
9:37pm, 5 Dec 2024
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Chrisull
I had a look at some of the videos of "car sized drones". They're obviously planes (and day to day commercial ones). I mean laughably obvious, the posters usually just deny it and point to the weird arrangement of lights but it's more their ignorance of aviation being exposed. Don't people ever look up? Where I used to live, the RAF used to run training flights right over our village, you got to see some right weird shit I can tell you, but all obviously military tech.
Dec 2024
9:40pm, 5 Dec 2024
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Chrisull
Nellers - As for Havana syndrome I don't see the outright evidence dismissing it. I mean the Insider put a lot of time into this report on it, this year:

theins.ru

60 minutes ran a documentary on it:

cbsnews.com

Der Spiegel - a respected German paper also were part of this investigation.

I mean sure be sceptical, there is no smoking gun, but the names linked with this report are not cranks. Christo Grozev is from Bellingcat - although I know a lot of the left think they're paid CIA mouthpieces (and maybe they are) The response to the sufferers sound a bit like those responses to Long covid or Chronic Fatigue syndrome. These people evidently suffered from something, it wasn't just psychological.

As someone who has read up on Russian weird shit, this is probably middle of the road. Also it's similar to what some of the Guatanamo bay inmates were exposed to. Wasn't any evidence that it affected them.
Dec 2024
4:38pm, 6 Dec 2024
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Chrisull
Nice little detail at Lakenheath one of the drones was caught emitting "ET" in morse code in lights.

That means they're ours I'd say, lol.

Someone else on social media pointed out that they started up almost immediately after the Russian inter ballistic missile test.

So stand down, it's British and US military tech.
Dec 2024
6:22pm, 6 Dec 2024
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57.5 Days of Xmas
Discovered that my occasional office mate is a fully convinced alien enthusiast. Because of the high quality recent evidence (!?).

I fear she has been doing a lot of her own research.
Dec 2024
10:12am, 13 Dec 2024
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Chrisull
I've now changed my mind on the cause of the UAP drone flap in New Jersey. It's more interesting than I thought. It is obviously hysteria.

Mick West -debunker and scourge of many believers, rounds up the points from a mayor's press conference:

"Objects "not being detected" despite "best detection equipment in nation" = because they are actually planes many miles away, not drones 400 feet away.

Origin unknown = Because they are not drones.

Lights go dark when approached = Some planes switch off landing lights. Lights "go dark" when they are not where you think they are or when you can't find the drone, because there isn't one.

Flying over critical infrastructure = Flying behind and miles away from critical infrastructure

6-7 hour loiter = They saw different planes over a 6-7 hour period.

I think the White House is fed up too.

There might well be some drones, I think the UAP enthusiasts have been putting some up, but when asked to put up a video with time/date , exact location - they cannot do that. There is obfuscation over "they're hard to photograph etc", which is partially true, but when these details are supplied the videos turn out to be planes. I've also seen lens flare, and fake videos too. The collective IQ of Twitter seems to dumb down daily.

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