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Jun 2021
12:32am, 22 Jun 2021
19,886 posts
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flanker
A waterproof jacket is on the required kit list, so you should take it regardless.
(A chocolate teapot is far more use in an emergency than a foil blanket. You can eat it.)
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Jun 2021
5:53am, 22 Jun 2021
4,664 posts
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Little Miss Happy
I would not suggest not carrying anything that's on a kit list but surely part of the point of these mega supported ultras is that you don't need to carry the kind of kit you would for an unsupported day on the fells?
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Jun 2021
8:01am, 22 Jun 2021
7,759 posts
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Northern Exile
I think there's some truth in that LMH. I wouldn't disagree that in an emergency situation on the fells a proper bivvy bag is the best option, but I have seen foil blankets effectively used as excellent insulation under a jacket. You couldn't do that with a chocolate teapot 
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Jun 2021
8:10am, 22 Jun 2021
14,977 posts
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geordiegirl
I was not intending not to take any of the mandated kit. It’s more that I’ve got way more stuff ‘just in case’
If I didn’t have people on the route I wouldn’t dream of not taking anything that has even if it is the slightest risk of being needed. I have my parents and husband on the route after the first 25miles. They both have a bag of things that may be useful (extra kit/trainers)
My bag is fully loaded with kit list items ++ Following some chat on the page after the event last weekend my friend said should we could take some of the extra items between us (so one first aid kit, one powerbank etc)
My shower proof jacket is still a decent jacket in all but heavy downpour & keeps a fair bit of wind out. I tend to wear that if I get a bit chilly whereas the full WP if a bit too much. The riskier part is the coast if a sea fret comes in. My thought was I could take the lighter jacket & leave the taped one with my parents as they’re meeting me just before the coastal section & I could swap there. I might just take both. I’ve also got extra layers in the bag but if forecast is good then maybe I don’t need those.
I’ve not done anything like this where they have such well stocked aid stations I always carry my own snacks.
Other than my first marathon, where my friends husband & mine drove the route and met up with us at various points they carried a bag of kit so we only had essentials in our bag, I’ve always been fully self sufficient.
As it’s fantastically supported from race organisers and I have access to people very easily (after 25miles) do I need to be fully self sufficient.
Thanks for ether replies 😀
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Jun 2021
10:21am, 22 Jun 2021
954 posts
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Sam Jelfs
Just watch for the "there is no permittance of a formal support crew for any Participant along the route" rule, you don't want to be DQed for getting external support. Not sure meeting a friend / family member would be considered a formal support crew, but if they have a car full of stuff for you at prearranged points, well it might be viewed differently.
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Jun 2021
10:28am, 22 Jun 2021
14,983 posts
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geordiegirl
Thanks SJ they’re more accessible than meeting us. I’ll be carrying most things ot was the extra just in case where we can call and say meet us xxx
But I’ll check thank you.
(Easier to just carry everything isn’t it!)
It all started listening to the young hearts podcast and a few of the people they interviewed said in early days of ultras they carried all kinds that just wasn’t necessary (over the mandated kit) got me checking what had made it’s way into my bag and it was crazy the after the event at the weekend again people said they carried far too much stuff. When I see some people’s packs then look at mine it’s huge.
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Jun 2021
1:17pm, 22 Jun 2021
19,888 posts
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flanker
You'll probably disagree, but I'd say that as the rules specifically prohibit support crews you should not be taking anything other than moral support from family/friends.
You need to recognise that you could well be reported by other competitors for receiving external support and then subsequently be DQ'ed.
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Jun 2021
2:30pm, 22 Jun 2021
14,985 posts
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geordiegirl
I haven’t seen anything in the T&C’s that suggests support is not allowed.
It is an emergency situation only.
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Jun 2021
3:07pm, 22 Jun 2021
955 posts
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Sam Jelfs
The quote I put up above about no formal crews came from the T&Cs. (4.22.20 - https://www.thresholdtrailseries.com/app/uploads/2020/08/rttc-2021-rr.pdf)
A quote from Jackie Stretton who came 2nd in the Spine Summer Challenger the other day that I thought applied to this general discussion, "[The limited number of CPs] resulted in having a very heavy pack, but I would always rather have and not need, than need and not have."
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Jun 2021
3:21pm, 22 Jun 2021
50,683 posts
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Derby Tup
The thing with kit is not having the right kit might save you an hour or two, but could cost you very dear if the worst happens
I’d say take note of the weather forecasts but have a real good look at the kit list - it’ll generally be sensible
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