Transgender exercise - Lets Fetch Everyone
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2 Aug
2:30pm, 2 Aug 2024
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paulcook
Diogenes wrote: I am saddened and sickened by the way this particular case is being used by transphobes to further attack trans people. That's the worst part of this all. The abuse is appalling. And the ringleaders are the worst. |
2 Aug
2:30pm, 2 Aug 2024
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Raemondo
Ultracat wrote: As someone who has never owned a set of pearls, is it necessary to label people in such a way? But I find nothing enlighting in some person hitting a woman so hard they became afraid for their health, whatever gender they claim to be. You might want to sit boxing out in general, then, I hear it's almost exclusively people hitting other just about as hard as they can 🤷🏼‍♂️ |
2 Aug
2:36pm, 2 Aug 2024
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paulcook
I didn't want to post that. Glad someone else did. We ain't talking about tickling here. |
2 Aug
2:40pm, 2 Aug 2024
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Raemondo
jda wrote: “Now”? There’s always been a debate over what qualifies as a women in sports long before trans issues became such a big issue. You don't think there's a specifically transphobic element to the 'controversy' here? |
2 Aug
2:46pm, 2 Aug 2024
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Ultracat
Just as well I never watch boxing and to be honest there is nothing sporting about folk hitting each other but the boxers choose to do it. I just believe a man hitting a woman is not on in any shape or form.
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2 Aug
2:50pm, 2 Aug 2024
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paulcook
Imane Kalief is a woman, and always has been a woman.
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2 Aug
2:52pm, 2 Aug 2024
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Raemondo
What's that got to do with Imane Khalif? She's a cisgender woman, assigned female at birth. I thought gender assignment at birth was sacred to TERFs? |
2 Aug
2:58pm, 2 Aug 2024
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jda
"You don't think there's a specifically transphobic element to the 'controversy' here?" I see one person trying to make it a trans issue here. I've argued for some time that the trans issue is inescapably linked to the more general one of what a woman is defined as in sport particularly (and of course other areas, but this is nominally a running website). It doesn't seem a popular point to discuss, perhaps because extremists on both sides prefer point-scoring. |
2 Aug
3:06pm, 2 Aug 2024
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Charlesvdw
This is not a trans issue. Imane Khelif has XY chromosomes and functioning testes. Khelif has been assigned female at birth because Khelif failed to grow a penis as a consequence of a DSD. Khelif's gender is female because Khelif identifies as female. Khelif's sex is male because of XY chromosomes and functioning testosteron-producing testes. The big question is whether one chooses gender or sex to allow these athletes to compete. |
2 Aug
3:09pm, 2 Aug 2024
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Charlesvdw
Reem Alsalem, the UN’s special rapporteur on VAWG (violence against women and girls), said Carini “rightly followed her instincts and prioritised her physical safety, but she and other female athletes should not have been exposed to this physical and psychological violence based on their sex”.
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