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SPR
SPR
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10:50pm, 1 Jul 2021
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Congrats mark.

Speedy - I can kind of see why the policy might not auto pick as some from say the 1500 might be interested but of the champs was a selection race then surely you have to be there or have a good reason.

Also wonder why they don't just do 5000 at the match.
larkim
larkim
Jul 2021
2:00pm, 2 Jul 2021
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Just seen on the "RunEqual" FB group that the NAL fixtures this year allow for male 5000m / 3000m at alternating events, and 3000m races for women.

Given the standard at these fixtures, that seems more than a touch old-fashioned.

I haven't seen any "proof" that this decision has been made other than the FB post, btw. The rules suggest the choice between 3000m and 5000m should be there for the male and female timetable, presumably decided in advance by the League. So again, presumably the League has made the decision to alternate for the men but stick with the non-Olympic standard event for women.
Curly45
Curly45
Jul 2021
2:22pm, 2 Jul 2021
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One of the issues with a women's 5000m in the league was I was often one of a few runners, whereas on the 3000m fixtures you'd get 10-12 athletes. There just isn't demand from many women to run the 5000m.

An example 5000m:
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And a 3000m, same season:
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That was SAL to be fair, maybe it is better at national level?
larkim
larkim
Jul 2021
2:29pm, 2 Jul 2021
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So a similar argument as for XC; the differential is needed to ensure take up?

Seems odd given how well balanced parkrun participation is, but I'm very conscious that a male discussing this could well be open to accusations of mansplaining or paternalistic patronising attitudes.
Curly45
Curly45
Jul 2021
2:36pm, 2 Jul 2021
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Its the gap between "running" a 5k and racing a 5000m imo.

Many of the younger female athletes are quite happy to go and jog round a 5k at parkrun, but wouldnt necessarily want to have the pressure of performing in a 5000m, whereas at 400m or 800m they can be competitive. In the 5000m you are very likely to be lapped.

Chicken and egg though, if you dont host the event no one will run it.
SPR
SPR
Jul 2021
2:43pm, 2 Jul 2021
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5000m definitely takes more out of you in terms of recovery, but at the same time, a different type of runner can be good at 5000 who wouldn't be as good at 3000 so I feel like it skews the competition to MD somewhat.
SPR
SPR
Jul 2021
2:44pm, 2 Jul 2021
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Also, I'm saying it takes more out of you but that's the perspective of an MD runner. Some of me LD clubmates might disagree.
larkim
larkim
Jul 2021
2:55pm, 2 Jul 2021
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But equally, it takes more out of men in the same way it takes more out of women. I'm sure there is something in the logic which says "you get what you're given" in terms of the races on offer.

Every day I would take a 5000m over a 1500m, and I'd probably take a 5 over a 3 too if I had the choice, though that is as much about the fact that 5 on the track in the meetings I attend are relatively few and far between.

I can see why 3000m is the go-to distance at local league level, definitely. But the NAL should be the league at which elite and sub-elite athletes show up from time to time, as well as the best regional and county athletes. None of them should be intimidated by a 5000m, surely?
SPR
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I agree, I'd expect rotation TBH which makes sense. However there's the problem (as with XC I guess) that the fact 5000 isn't on offer normally may have self selected that those that are generally passionate about league to be runners that prefer 3000.
SPR
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Midlands rotates for Men and has 3000 only for women. Apparently that's changing this year.

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