Coronavirus discussion thread

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halfpint Nov 2020 10:26am, 2 Nov 2020 33,015 posts	0 halfpint Agree with Linds re universities. Anecdotally my experience is that everything that can go online is online. QP is doing an outdoor leadership course and you can’t MTB, kayak and climb online. They are in small household groups with measures in place. His course could not continue if college had to close.
simbil Nov 2020 10:34am, 2 Nov 2020 8,954 posts	0 simbil Eat out to help out started Aug 3rd. The uptick in younger folk started long before then.
HappyG(rrr) Nov 2020 10:39am, 2 Nov 2020 36,280 posts	0 HappyG(rrr) Just to say Bazo, when you said no details taken for track and trace on your family's visit to a cafe/resto, I suspect when you booked you gave name and mobile number. That is all that is required. That name and mobile is then responsible for (and able to) say names of all the other people in your party, should track and trace require. Enjoyed a well managed lunch / coffee at local cafe / resto on Sunday with my wife. I will be sorry if these are closed if Scotland follows England's full lockdown. I would understand it. But I would miss it. I would happily sacrifice cafe / resto visits if I could have family travelling and staying with us instead. But that doesn't appear to be a choice.
Spideog Nov 2020 10:53am, 2 Nov 2020 824 posts	0 Spideog @simbil And that uptick in younger age groups which is being given as the proof of students being the cause of increases in cases also shows that the change long predates the start of term. Pubs opening can be shown to link to that rise, but only if you are also claiming that anyone over the age of 40 doesn't go to the pub. What will also have happened around the same time though is more people socialising at "everywhere". There is a significant difference between the rise in cases between the age groups, but I don't see it as being down to pubs, there must be something else going on which we don't yet know, but pubs are not an exclusive venue for 20-39 year olds.
EvilPixie Nov 2020 10:59am, 2 Nov 2020 19,861 posts	0 EvilPixie but coincides with pubs opening and we've all seen over the years many times images/footage of young people having drunk far to much and holding each other up (or puking or falling over etc) So maybe it's just the youth of today think it's their right to drink in excess and that's not an issue? Maybe their concern for the long term impact of the actions then is the same as now. Maybe they just think of the moment. Excessive drinking leads to addiction and liver issues but doesn't stop the excessive drinking and now we have the addition of excess drinking removes all ideas or attempts at social distancing which could reduce the likely hood of get covid
geordiegirl Nov 2020 11:04am, 2 Nov 2020 12,106 posts	0 geordiegirl Post July we definitely had more groups of younger adults hanging around and evidence of litter in the woods/fells where I live suggested this was a venue of choice and kids now hanging around in large groups and zero respect for distancing giving that schools are sending home year groups for cases some of these could easily be in the at risk category. There was an incident of younger kids (11-12yo) going round wooing their faces on towels in our local Tesco they go in in groups of 3-4 and they are powerless to stop them. Not blaming kids adults are as responsible but we know they are less likely to have symptoms be with their mates infect each other and they in turn their family. A friends son (yr7) was self isolating due to school beginning of October got back for a week then off again for another case. So disruptive.
simbil Nov 2020 11:05am, 2 Nov 2020 8,955 posts	0 simbil There will be a bit of lag probably between cases being reported which needs to be factored in. So the 20-39 age group turning point around July 4th may well have been because of changes one or two weeks earlier. Not really drawing any conclusions from it other than it seems likely some/many things about easing lockdown caused slowing of the decline that then flipped to growth in cases.
Dvorak Nov 2020 11:41am, 2 Nov 2020 21,208 posts	0 Dvorak Here is an infographic of the rise in cases in Germany, show by district, from early August to now. The metric is new cases per week, per 100 000 people. morgenpost.de Long period of nothing much happening, though over six weeks (42 days) infections increased from very low to low (6.1 to 12). Since then, infection doubling times have been around 22, 17, 9 days. Week ending 30th October, reported new infection rates were 17x those of twelve weeks before.
Markymarkmark Nov 2020 12:06pm, 2 Nov 2020 13,140 posts	0 Markymarkmark Let me think what the under 40s do more of that the over 40s do less of (allegedly ) and requires "access" to other people ...... . Anyone done a survey into that?
Spideog Nov 2020 12:29pm, 2 Nov 2020 825 posts	0 Spideog Erm, work minimum wage jobs? Use TikToc? Have less grey hair? Did I get it right?