13 Jun
10:36am, 13 Jun 2024
2,837 posts
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Canute
World-wide (Europe, South Africa, India, Australia, US, Brazil, Argentina etc) there is a major swing away from the established political order. In several places (e.g. Europe, Argentina) the move is to the right, though in Brazil and Australia the swing has been leftwards. The UK situation is odd: the swing is towards Labour but Labour itself has shited rightwards, while the Conservatives are fragmenting into those inclined towards the far right and those clinging to an ill-defined notion of traditional conservative values. As I see it, there are two interlocked drivers: 1) economic insecurity following Covid, exacerbated by the Russin invasion of Ukraine and by shifts in geopolitical alliances; 2) immigration driven by war, economic instability and climate change. Of the underlying issues, climate change is probably the most serious in the long term, but at the moment, climate has almost dropped off the agenda, at least in developed countries. Concern about migration tend to drive opinions towards the right, especially amongst the elderly. Economic instability affects both young and old. It tends to drive the old further right while it is likely to drive the young to shift away from the status quo. To me the surprising thing is that the young appear to have lost focus on climate change. |
13 Jun
10:41am, 13 Jun 2024
27,921 posts
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richmac
Pothunter wrote: As far as I understand it, the bet itself isn’t criminal, it’s the use of privileged information (allegedly) in order to beat the bookie that’s the issue. I'd argue that it's fraud. He's defrauded the bookies he knew the outcome of the thing he was betting on so it wasn't a gamble or a fair bet . I've got no sympathy for bookies here BTW. Plenty of people have been prosecuted for race fixing for example but even then its never 100% as a horse could break a leg unlike this where he knew for sure. |
13 Jun
11:02am, 13 Jun 2024
5,227 posts
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paulcook
In terms of sympathy for the bookies according to the Guardian story, Ladbrokes knew who he was. It may well be they didn’t take the bet or won’t honour it.
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13 Jun
11:25am, 13 Jun 2024
22,402 posts
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rf_fozzy
1) economic insecurity following Covid, exacerbated by the Russin invasion of Ukraine and by shifts in geopolitical alliances; Actually I suspect the roots go all the way back to the economic crises of 2008. Also climate change as an issue still polls highly amongst younger voters |
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13 Jun
11:27am, 13 Jun 2024
5,230 posts
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paulcook
Latest Yougov poll shows Conservative in 5th place of voters aged <50 and 4th aged <65. Blip or end of party figures?
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13 Jun
11:46am, 13 Jun 2024
8,950 posts
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Pothunter
Thought this might be appreciated here: |
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13 Jun
11:59am, 13 Jun 2024
27,924 posts
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richmac
Band of Bastards
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13 Jun
12:11pm, 13 Jun 2024
5,231 posts
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paulcook
You say band of bastards. Farage has made his pitch. x.com |
13 Jun
12:14pm, 13 Jun 2024
32,536 posts
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macca 53
[excellent typo by Canute earlier 😁]
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13 Jun
12:15pm, 13 Jun 2024
44,674 posts
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SPR
This election for Farage is about giving him leverage and he's already starting to try and use it. He most definitely should not be ignored but I also don't see an appetite to take him on apart from smaller or Scottish/ Welsh parties.
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