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The vaporfly thread

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18 Jan
1:16pm, 18 Jan 2025
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Chris
Yesterday was the day they arrived and 30 mins before a session so I gave them a go.

First impressions were they are a bit soft and seem to take a split second for the foam to compress before pushing off. I didn't like it to start with but seemed to get used to it and felt stronger at the end. Not sure I'd like them for a 5k but longer stuff should be ok. I was expecting some sore bits today given I've never run in them before but everything seems fine.
29 Jan
8:35am, 29 Jan 2025
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larkim
Tangential observation; the first episode of the Paula Radcliffe / Chris Thompson marathon podcast had a guy from Nike that Paula has known since Uni days on talking about how the plated / foam shoes work. A few observations in there about which of the supershoes might suit different runners (e.g. AF for forefoot, VR for midstrike to heel strike) as well as a comment about it being largely around the absence of movement in the toes being the area that creates the benefit (nothing new there I don't think) which he suggested meant that training in the supershoes too much would result in a loss of strength in the muscles around the metatarsals (I could be paraphrasing terribly). Anyway, thought some of you who are interested in the tech might be interested - it's only about a 20 minute segment, and the more interesting stuff was towards the end.
30 Jan
10:38am, 30 Jan 2025
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hellen
From that podcast what I took away was it’s Ok to train in super shoes if you are strengthening your feet to make up for the lack of movement in the super shoes.
30 Jan
4:06pm, 30 Jan 2025
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larkim
Yep that's what I heard too. I just wasn't sure whether that was well understood, or whether we assumed that elites simply ran all their mileage in expensive supershoes because they were in receipt of sponsored shoes to allow for that; the concept of training in supershoes has obviously been strongly linked to improved recovery.
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10 Feb
10:38pm, 10 Feb 2025
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SPR
I listened to the podcast and given the Nike VP's comments, I'm amazed they made the original Streakfly and marketed it as a 5/10k shoe. Many of us were sceptical at the time and the description of how supershoes came about suggests that Nike would have already known it wasn't going to be good enough.

My hypothesis was before I listened to the podcast was that a shoe like the Streakfly would give you the cushioning benefits while still allowing your foot to work in the traditional manner and the podcast seemed aligned with those thoughts.

I'm enjoying using the Streakfly for training on track and for road intervals basically because it feels like a normal shoe with better cushioning. It's probably not going to be very durable though unfortunately.
11 Feb
6:18am, 11 Feb 2025
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Big_G
I binned my Streakflys the other day after around 60 miles of use. I did like running in them, but they’re very bad build quality, in my view. Midsole was coming away from main body of the shoe and I didn’t trust them to not fall apart mid run, and didn’t want to mess around trying to repair them. I didn’t particularly abuse them, and didn’t put them away soaking wet or anything like that. Over 2 years old I think so presumably no chance of a refund although I admit I didn’t try.
SPR
11 Feb
9:06am, 11 Feb 2025
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With only 60 miles I'd be asking for a refund. Build quality is fine in mine, it's just that the ZoomX is fully exposed past the forefoot.
11 Feb
9:08am, 11 Feb 2025
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auburnette
I bought the Adidas Evo SL to use as a non plated but still superfoam shoe which can handle speed. I also like the Puma Velocity Nitro - nice and lightweight, feels like a traditional trainer which is happy to pick up the pace. You can pick it up cheaply and it's fairly durable too.
11 Feb
9:15am, 11 Feb 2025
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larkim
Not entirely sure where they sit in the general views of race day shoes, but bought some Brooks Hyperion GTS a few weeks ago to replace the Adios Adizero 7s which I never felt particularly comfortable in for long durations. Fit is great, lighter than the Launch GTS which I normally wear, but I don't think there is anything fancy apart from general lightness. Feel like a good replacement for the Adios though so far; difficult to benchmark as my personal body is not as fast as it was!
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10:18am, 11 Feb 2025
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Hills of Death (HOD)
Someone mentioned a HOKA trail fast shoe I’ve got the Nike Trail Fly nice shoe not a lot of grip.

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