May 2012
3:38pm, 11 May 2012
11,803 posts
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DeeGee
I was 11st12 when I got my PB. I was 12st6 in Hull when, 18 months later, I got to within 90 secs of it. If I can get back to 12st0 again for Mablethorpe then I'm sure I'll go even faster. I really cannot maintain that sort of weight, though.
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May 2012
4:41pm, 11 May 2012
88 posts
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AmGettingFitter (AGF)
Definitely food for thought in the weight loss. That's good going Jon T and provides motivation here.
Good luck on your weight loss Deegee.
I was 16 stone just over 2 years ago... So have made progress and maintained it... Just plateud and justified cakes as burning it running... Need to reduce that. Mind you this weekend have taken wife away and we are on the town tonight...( a hangover in hotel gym tomorrow)
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May 2012
12:52pm, 12 May 2012
386 posts
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Brian G
AMG,
You're less than 5 mins away from 3:30 from your recent Brighton Marathon. I would say that if you did nothing different but managed to get your weight to around 12 stone that that could knock off 5 mins, but I appreciate that its not easy to do and sounds like you've already done a great job with your weight.
Also had a quick look at your training and most of your general runs seem to be about 9:30 - 9:45mm, I havent looked on any running calculators but I would guess that you could be doing your general/easy runs at more 8:30mm pace.
Anyway, all the best.
Brian
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May 2012
1:11pm, 12 May 2012
387 posts
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Brian G
AMG - One more thing and I hope you dont mind me sticking my nose in.
Just wondered what your main goals are this autumn, noticed that you're doing the JW Ultra 1 month prior to Abingdon. If Abingdon is your priority and to PB at Abingdon then I wouldnt recommend doing an Ultra 1 month before hand.
BG
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May 2012
2:49pm, 12 May 2012
38 posts
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puffinnuffin
Another vote here for endurance and more longer runs. After my recent 3h 25m at Manchester I think a couple more long runs might have got me to 3 20 and a couple of extra speed sessions wouldn't have made any difference in those last hard three-five miles. Before the current training period my 5km was 21 17 so I went it to it slower than you. Along the way I did managed to improve my 5km pb to 20m 34s.
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May 2012
7:52pm, 12 May 2012
89 posts
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AmGettingFitter (AGF)
Thanks Brian. I think your right about the weight. I need this to be a large focus area. I agree my easy runs are slow but I am practicing hadd at the moment (last six months) and run most my runs sub 70%. also after some down time and hearty eating am a little out of shape. They will fall if time as I lose weight and gain 4-5 weeks of 40+ miles. Abingon is my a race for the year. I am doing JW as a way to do "overdistance" I plan to run walk and do 11 min mile pace.... Just take it easy. This maybe a stupid thing to do but a number of folk day it should be fine and maybe beneficial as long as is vv slow.
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May 2012
10:38pm, 12 May 2012
90 posts
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AmGettingFitter (AGF)
Thanks puffin, that info on 5k times gives lots of confidence...
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May 2012
9:08am, 13 May 2012
13,795 posts
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flanker
AGF - endurance ndurance endurance. Get the miles up and the long runs in. I'd strongly disagree with Brian through (sorry B) 8:30s are far too fast for general runs. 30 secs off PMP is not an easy run. I'd stick with the 9:30 pace - I know a lot of people who run 3:15 and 3:00 off that sort of training, and a lot who trail faster who regularly miss targets. Just my view on it.
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May 2012
9:11am, 13 May 2012
13,796 posts
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flanker
Clare - can you take me out out of the header for Windy. A 40 mile 10'000ft ascent mountain ultra the weekend before with an 80 minute course PB isn't going to get me a 3:30. With luck I'll be able to move again by Sunday!
It is much better training for Lakeland 100 though, so fine by me
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May 2012
11:15am, 13 May 2012
390 posts
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Brian G
Flanker - Fair point, but the length of AGFs from his last weeks training log were from around 4.5 - 8 miles in length, I dont see a need to do runs of these length at 9:30+.
For weekly Long Runs then yes I'd agree that 8:30 would be too fast and would guess that these should be done at PMP + 1m30s and maybe then progressing a bit closer to PMP nearer the event. Otherwise I'd guess around 90% of his running would be over 9:30mm pace.
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