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Jul 2022
3:44pm, 6 Jul 2022
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rf_fozzy
Nope. Too late.

And being realistic, even deployment of renewables at scale *will* require extraction of large amounts of minerals and materials.
Jul 2022
5:51pm, 6 Jul 2022
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run free
😀G unfortunately the Politicians think more about the economy than the climate emergency that will see a mass destruction of life
Jul 2022
8:26pm, 6 Jul 2022
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JRitchie
Large scale CSP is interesting but I think I read somewhere it’s not that efficient. The largest one globally is in a Chilean dessert Cerro Dominado. 16,000 reflectors, $800m cost, 6 years from first stone to power, 40k tons of salt, and 110MW of power produced.
Jul 2022
8:29pm, 6 Jul 2022
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JRitchie
Though I don’t think Scotland is the place for concentrated solar power, a couple of colleagues went over to Chile to help the project and kindly brought me a book back - from which I got those stats.
jda
Jul 2022
8:55pm, 6 Jul 2022
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jda
If anywhere needs their solar power concentrated it's Scotland.

Big parabolic mirror in space would be a good start :-)
Jul 2022
10:10pm, 6 Jul 2022
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Fields
Starting to research solar panels before going out for solar panel quotes - my house faces SSW approx 200 degrees in a sunny area so hoping I can benefit from them.

Any tips / what to avoid greatly appreciated :-)
Jul 2022
10:12pm, 6 Jul 2022
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rf_fozzy
If we'd still been a member of the EU, it would have been cheaper to install.

Pro tip
Jul 2022
10:16pm, 6 Jul 2022
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HappyG(rrr)
Get two quotes. And get quote for battery. Just battery no solar is actually worth it!

Do you know what your kWh usage is pa? :-) G
Jul 2022
10:16pm, 6 Jul 2022
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HappyG(rrr)
Are you taking the interest free loan?
Jul 2022
10:28pm, 6 Jul 2022
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Fields
Thanks for your comments HappyG. No idea on my usage I’ve only lived here for a few days! I suppose I need to find the average kWH usage is for a 3 bed house then knock off a bit as there's just me.

Wasn’t aware of a loan - will do a Google for it when I have some time :-)

Fozzy - please keep cross thread beef (consumption of which needs to be reduced anyway ;-) ) out of an informative and useful thread :-)

About This Thread

Maintained by HappyG(rrr)
Hi
I've seen environment (whether emissions, power, climate change, access to countryside, whatever you think of as "environment") discussed in various threads: Politics (obviously), the Electric Car thread fetcheveryone.com/forum/electric-car-anyone-61481/ , run free's excellent "Competitive Running and Keeping The Environment Clean" fetcheveryone.com/forum/running-competitively-keeping-our-environment-clean-60907/ my own Greta Thunberg thread fetcheveryone.com/forum/greta-thunberg---jfk-for-the-climate-generation-61044/ etc. but I haven't seen a general one.

So here it is. For those interested in the science, the politics, the action for (and I'll state that for me, this is mostly pro-environment, anti-emissions, anti-pollution etc.) and the hope for the future of our planet.

Useful links posted by contributors:
rf_fozzy: This is quite a good article about how disruptive technology works too: lesswrong.com
Basically about why Kodak completely missed the boat when it came to digital cameras timkastelle.org
run free's Grand Designs example Ben Laws is a man who built his dream: granddesignsmagazine.com granddesignsmagazine.com
Carbon Commentary carboncommentary.com

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