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The Dishwasher Club

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Jun 2019
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icemaiden
Fisher & Paykel is a New Zealand brand, pretty rare in the UK and not that reliable.
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Lip Gloss
That's another reason I won't have pets.
My baskets don't move and my cutlery basket can only go in once place.
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alpenrose
My first experience of a dishwasher was nearly 50 years ago in a guest house so a small professional one. I was shocked when I first saw that a domestic one took more than about 5 or 10 minutes to do a wash.
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The Mighty Fleecy
LG doesn’t have pets because they wouldn’t fit in the dishwasher? *scratches head*
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Lip Gloss
How else would you wash them????
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McGoohan
Do you iron them? ;-)
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Lip Gloss
I would if I had especially the dogs with wrinkly faces
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icemaiden
Professional dws are not subjected to the same eco regulations as the domestic ones. They are free to use as much energy and water as they like and thus run more quickly. They are not necessarily able to get lipstick off glasses as we all know.
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Jenelopy
We're keen to avoid Fisher & Paykel for all appliances. We have a very old Fisher & Paykel fridge (it was old when I bought it second hand for $300 11 years ago), which is still going fairly well but I've not heard anything good about the build quality / reliability of their products form the last decade or so. Their modern fridges look very expensive and have poor energy star ratings.
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The Mighty Fleecy
I was just about to put on the dishwasher when I thought I’d check the cesspits (teen rooms). I found a load more manky dishes in there so rearranged the dishwasher and am feeling quietly proud of how efficiently it’s stacked. No spare space but all the dirtiest stuff is exposed nicely for optimum cleaning.

Very satisfying!

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Maintained by McGoohan
Do you trust anyone else in your house to load the dishwasher other than yourself? Of course you don't!

Perhaps there's a tetrathlon we could do: swim-bike-run-fill dishwasher?
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Some advice from icemaiden who has actual expertise in this area:

In another life I was part of the team advising the UK govt and EU energy efficiency program about consumer use of DWs and have spent more than than I care to think about loading and unloading for test purposes.

The eco program takes ages but will use less energy than the standard program because it does not heat to such a high temperature. There's a triangle of time vs temperature vs cleanliness. To get the required level of cleaning, it is regulated via the eco design regulations, the time has to be long because the energy consumption has to be below a certain level, also regulated.

Please clean the filters. And clean inside at the bottom of the door, you will be surprised at the gunk that gets down there.

Cutlery is best mixed to make sure most of them get clean

Scrape off the lumps of food. Don't prewash or soak unless burnt on stuff.

Salt is necessary in hard water areas, but use the lowest salt setting if using with tablets.

Testing really has shown that the majority of people use more water and energy to hand wash the same load. So fill your machine as best you can.

Two dishwashers are definitely the way forward.

Slimline and tabletop dishwashers aren't as efficient as full size and best avoided.

Knives up or down is personal preference, but there have been some nasty accidents when, usually small, people tripped/fell into the cutlery basket when the door was open and the lower basket pulled out and knives were blade up. Many baskets can be positioned in different places so you could try another place.

Cutlery trays work for some people, but others can't be arsed with the faff of doing it properly.

Many upper baskets can be adjusted upwards to allow for big plates in the lower basket, but some people don't bother to find out how they work. If you put large glasses in the top basket then you might need to lower the basket, some can even accommodate both large plate and long stem glasses.

Price difference is mostly to do with build quality. Cheaper models have plastic bases rather than metal and the baskets have fewer adjustable features. Although entry level Miele have very fixed baskets.

Number of place settings is based on standard tableware, and may not be the same as your set, always good to take plates along if in any doubt.

Eat your Weetabix and scrape out the leftovers.

Porridge is one of the test soils because it is so difficult. The others are tea, dried milk, egg, spinach, mince and margarine. The test detergent is not the same as the ones in the shops, but all machines have to reach a certain, high, level of cleaning and drying on the eco program. And there's not a lot of difference in performance these days, you're paying for convenience and longevity.
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