So who won the tour from 1999 to 2005

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Bazoaxe Dec 2017 7:21pm, 18 Dec 2017 12,252 posts	0 Bazoaxe Threshold, limit.....if you need to explain it, there is a reason they want it explained, so must be a benefit?
Chrisull Dec 2017 7:41pm, 18 Dec 2017 12,061 posts	0 Chrisull The cavalry has arrived ;-), thank goodness I was feeling a little embattled.
sallykate Dec 2017 7:53pm, 18 Dec 2017 5,256 posts	0 sallykate I'd understood that salbutamol is legal when inhaled (up to 1600mg per day) but not when administered by any other means - which might confer a benefit rather than a therapeutic correction of airways (this was in either INRNG or Ross Tucker but I forget which). The limit of the drug or its metabolites in urine is set at a level which would be very unlikely to be exceeded as a result of the legal inhaled use.
sallykate Dec 2017 7:57pm, 18 Dec 2017 5,257 posts	0 sallykate FWIW I'm also hoping that he can demonstrate that it was just one of those things which can be explained by his metabolism and the circumstances on the day. (And just realised I wrote urine when I meant blood. Oops.)
Nellers Dec 2017 8:08pm, 18 Dec 2017 32,021 posts	0 Nellers The abnormal results are from a urine test SK.
sallykate Dec 2017 8:11pm, 18 Dec 2017 5,258 posts	0 sallykate Ah doubly wrong then.
Chrisull Dec 2017 8:37pm, 18 Dec 2017 12,062 posts	0 Chrisull SPR - it doesn't prove doping is rampant, BUT it is symptomatic of rampant doping, which has been the rule, not the exception for the past 30+ years. If you had symptoms, then found you had cancer, and then you went into remission and then the same symptoms re-occurred, you'd naturally suspect the cancer had returned? You might well be wrong, but it would be erring on the side of caution. Every TDF between 1998 and 2011 the majority of the entire top 10 have failed drugs tests or admitted to doping or been a client of Dr Ferrari. I still love cycling races though!
larkim Dec 2017 10:18pm, 18 Dec 2017 3,566 posts	0 larkim I've been accused of worse Gobi Just happy to be offering a contrary position
SPR Dec 2017 10:44pm, 18 Dec 2017 25,409 posts	0 SPR Chris - The culture can be acknowledged while looking at each case on merit without baseless speculation. The Armstrong argument for this doesn't wash. When Froome goes after the one clean rider on a dirty team, attacks a rider on the road for no reason other than he implicated his dirty doctor, is generally shit to others that have evidence of wrong doing, gets a retrospective TUE for a positive test, has multiple positives for the EPO which are used to validate the test now in use... You get the picture. The evidence was there, just ignored.
Gobi Dec 2017 11:15pm, 18 Dec 2017 62,330 posts	0 Gobi Thats not accusing you Larks :¬)