Running Heart rate

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Jun 2020
2:14pm, 3 Jun 2020
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Mark1401
Ive been treadmill running for several years at the gym and always just slogged it out.
We recently bought a home treadmill and have been reading up about heart rate training zones. We also have a Polar chest strap.
Now Im slim and have fairly low normal blood pressure.
I am trying to keep my heart rate around a nice 77% (220 less age * 0.77) when running. About 130bpm for me
However my heart rate always rises well above this to around 85% - 150bpm! Even at a slow run!
But I am not breathless and could keep up the pace for hours!
To get to around 130bpm I need to speed walk.
I dont have any breathing or heart issues for sure as silly doc misdiagnosed something last year and sent me for test.
Is there something Im missing... or am I just good and fit??
Jun 2020
2:19pm, 3 Jun 2020
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larkim
Don't trust the 220-age. It's far too broad an average to be used reliably. The best thing to do is to establish an actual max and use that in your formula instead.

Others can give better advice than I can on how to approach getting a max HR, but for me if I'm flat out and sprinting for the line in a parkrun for example that would be a decent enough approximation - give or take a few beats.

Oh, and welcome to Fetch!
Jun 2020
2:24pm, 3 Jun 2020
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Nelly
Welcome to Fetch Mark.

larkim beat me to posting, but I was going to give exactly the same advice.

Also, plenty of advice on Heart Rate training in this thread if you want to read back, and/or discuss it further with people who also use that method of training fetcheveryone.com/forum/heart-rate-3882/
Jun 2020
2:24pm, 3 Jun 2020
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Old Croc
Weclome to Fetch

there is a thread dedicated to HR training issues - you will get more knowledgeable input there (probably!)

fetcheveryone.com/forum/heart-rate-3882/
Jun 2020
2:24pm, 3 Jun 2020
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EvilPixie
Or read up on Phil Maffetone
You may be fit but low heart rate work is working of your aerobic fitness so yes slow is probably right as is walking
also I always find my heart rate a lot higher on the treadmill

Try outside
azx
Jun 2020
10:15pm, 3 Jun 2020
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azx
Hi Mark. I'm a few years older than you and my max HR is 183. Down from 184 from about 15 years ago. Don't believe anything you read about age and max HR
Jun 2020
7:38am, 4 Jun 2020
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HappyG(rrr)
Hi Mark. I'm 50 and my max HR is over 190 so you need to do yourself a proper max HR test as others have said.

If I had to run at under 130bpm I'd never run! My 70% is 149. Much more doable.

Shout if you want info on doing a max HR test. Plenty good sources here in Fetch. Welcome. :-) G
Jun 2020
11:24am, 5 Jun 2020
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Gobi
220 - age = flawed like many others my max is above this number

What pace are you running to see 150 and what pace is your speed walk ?

Test yourself properly - find a hill you can batter up for a minute, jog down and repeat 3 to 5 times - max will be either rep 2 or 3

I would recommend MAff to anyone, I like HR training and even I got bored with MAFF and I can run 8mm at sub 120 heart rate
Jun 2020
11:24am, 5 Jun 2020
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Gobi
I wouldn't recommend MAFF (bugger)
Jun 2020
11:27am, 5 Jun 2020
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EvilPixie
so if not MAFF then what do you do Gobi?

I noticed that the Garmin zone for aerobic is higher than MAFF

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