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MarkC May 2006 1:56pm, 11 May 2006 0 posts	0 MarkC I read the ChiRunning article too. So I had a little try at trying to lean forward a little more when I'm running, and I did find it helped. Not sure I could be doing it 3 hours into a marathon, though, for example. Reckon I'd just topple over! <br><br>I thought there was some interesting food for thought in that article. It could be worth looking more into this ChiRunning, especially as I have a heavy footstrike.
Boab May 2006 2:07pm, 11 May 2006 0 posts	0 Boab A little study about POSE compared to mid foot and heel-toe running.<br><br>Reduced eccentric loading of the knee with the pose running method.<br><br>Arendse RE, Noakes TD, Azevedo LB, Romanov N, Schwellnus MP, Fletcher G.<br><br>MRC/UCT Exercise Science and Sports Medicine Research Unit, Department of Human Biology, Faculty of Health Sciences, University of Cape Town, Sports Science Institute of South Africa, PO Box 115, Newlands 7725, South Africa. rarendse@sports.uct.ac.za<br><br>PURPOSE: The aim of this study was to compare the biomechanical changes during natural heel-toe running with learned midfoot and Pose running. METHODS: Twenty heel-toe runners were instructed in midfoot running and a novel running style in which the acromium, greater trochanter, and lateral malleolus are aligned in stance (Pose running). Clinical gait analysis was performed for each running style and the biomechanical variables compared. RESULTS: In comparison with midfoot and heel-toe running Pose running was characterized by shorter stride lengths and smaller vertical oscillations of the sacrum and left heel marker. Compared with midfoot and Pose running heel-toe running was characterized by greater magnitudes and loading rates of the vertical impact force. In preparation for initial contact, the knee flexed more in Pose than in heel-toe and midfoot running. The ankle at initial contact was neutral in Pose compared with a dorsiflexed and plantarflexed position in heel-toe and midfoot running, respectively. The knee power absorption and eccentric work were significant lower (P < 0.05) in Pose than in either heel-toe or midfoot running. In contrast, there was a higher power absorption and eccentric work at the ankle in Pose compared with heel-toe and midfoot running. CONCLUSIONS: Pose running was associated with shorter stride lengths, smaller vertical oscillations of the sacrum and left heel markers, a neutral ankle joint at initial contact, and lower eccentric work and power absorption at the knee than occurred in either midfoot or heel-toe running. The possibility that such gait differences could be associated with different types and frequencies of running injuries should be evaluated in controlled clinical trails.<br>
Boab May 2006 2:19pm, 11 May 2006 0 posts	0 Boab Here is another impartial article on the POSE method, claiming that the POSE method leads to slower running compared to heel-toe and midfoot strike running, <br><br>Different running styles put stress on different joints in different ways. Medical professionals would like to understand exactly how different running styles affect the knee, ankle, and hip. This knowledge could help runners and other athletes recover from injuries. It could also help prevent injuries. Researchers know that running backwards is easier on the knee. The calf muscles absorb most of the stress. Obviously, athletes can't start running backward to avoid knee problems! So these authors studied the way three different running styles affect the leg joints. Twenty runners took part in the study. All of them were heel-toe runners. In a heel-toe running stride, the heel hits first. The runner then rolls the weight forward through the foot. The authors taught all the runners two new running styles. Midfoot running is much like heel-toe running, but the middle part of the foot hits the ground first. The runners learned midfoot running within 15 minutes. It was a much different story for the third running style. The authors call it pose running. Runners took about 7.5 hours to learn pose running. Pose running involves keeping the body more upright. The shoulders, hips, and ankles stay aligned. Runners don't push off the ground as in the other running styles. Instead, they lean forward a bit, bend the knee, and avoid pushing off the running surface. In pose running, the ball of the foot hits the ground first. Pose running was designed to have leg movements that are similar to backward running. The authors analyzed stride, speed, and ground forces for each of the three running styles. Ankle, knee, and hip movements were also studied. Pose running was slower than the other two styles. Pose running also had shorter strides and lower forces. The joints handled the load differently in pose running. The ankles worked harder, and the knees worked less. The authors think that the different body posture may have had a lot to do with redirecting the force in pose running. They suggest that research needs to consider body position to fully understand the way the joints work while running. <br>
Applecross May 2006 3:53pm, 11 May 2006 0 posts	0 Applecross Yes, but does it make you go FASTER?
May 2006 9:46am, 12 May 2006 0 posts	0 b=boy - I found the first time really easy but yesterday I just couldn't get it together! rolling hills are hard I think as you have to keep adjusting how much you lean - wish I was a natural runner! Yesterday I kept running on my toes rather than midfoot and it was very tiring on lower legs - something I was trying to avoid!<br><br>x
Boab May 2006 1:27pm, 12 May 2006 0 posts	0 Boab Applecross, the jury is out on that one. Having said that apparently michael johnson was a PROSE runner
Boab May 2006 5:10pm, 12 May 2006 0 posts	0 Boab I am not having a good week....to add insult to injury, as well as being ill recently, I have just fallen off my bike! Nothing too serious, just couldn't get my foot out of my pedal clip fast enough. Mainly cuts and bruises, but it had to be the sore knee that took most of the impact didn't it!!!!!
Gobi May 2006 5:12pm, 12 May 2006 0 posts	0 Gobi I did the same yesterday and took a chunk of knee away <br><br>I found the solution was a 20 mile run :¬)
Boab May 2006 5:23pm, 12 May 2006 0 posts	0 Boab Lucky you Gobi, I haven't ran for weeks.<br><br><<feels really sorry for self and envious of non injured ultra runners!
Hanneke May 2006 5:42pm, 12 May 2006 0 posts	0 Hanneke <joins boaby> <br><br>Thankfully not fallen off my bike not getting foot out of clip fast enough recently at least, sigh!