21 Aug
11:17pm, 21 Aug 2024
22,917 posts
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rf_fozzy
Johnny Blaze wrote: I have no idea what a scan to leave thing is. You have not lived |
22 Aug
9:50am, 22 Aug 2024
50,737 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
Loving the positivity on US Democrat conventions at moment. Hope it carries through to election date and to voters' actions (turnout and tick for Dems.)  G
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22 Aug
9:52am, 22 Aug 2024
17,667 posts
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jda
Yeah isn’t it great when someone ignores the right wing whinging from the press and just gets on with presenting a positive vision. Starmerites must be livid. |
22 Aug
9:55am, 22 Aug 2024
25,401 posts
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larkim
The US put on a good show. But it feels all show and no substance, doesn't it? But if that's what wins over the electorate over there, that's all good. As a starmerite, I'm perfectly happy with the way we're doing things over here. |
22 Aug
10:57am, 22 Aug 2024
14,833 posts
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sallykate
The US is very troubling, with statements from Trump already lining up some kind of disturbance if he doesn't win.
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22 Aug
12:03pm, 22 Aug 2024
25,402 posts
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larkim
Almost irrespective of Trump from this point onwards, there'll be disturbances if he doesn't win; the events following the last election almost make that inevitable. I still think he falls short of the real threat to the US democratic tradition that some paint him as though; he's just a very bad loser and I don't actually think he even considers the election he is in as anything other than a game to be played and won, however he does it. It's the fact that his acolytes and disciples can't see through that that confounds me. Are they really that stupid, or is there something about what Trump really does offer that I'm failing to grasp that might actually make me sit down and consider his offer as rational for even a few minutes. (I like to think that if, say, Thatcher/Major/Sunak/Cameron had sat down with me and used their best persuasive tones that I might actually be able to understand things from their perspective as being "correct", even if I disagreed from my perspective. I can't even fathom that that might be possible with Trump) |
22 Aug
12:05pm, 22 Aug 2024
32,933 posts
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Johnny Blaze
The kind of thing happening at the Dem convention is terrifically un-British. We are way too self-conscious and jaded for that sort of thing. However, it must be said that the US is currently facing an existential threat from Orange Jesus and his toadies and the opposition really needs to get fired up for the struggle. So good for them. 'I see you stand like greyhounds in the slips, Straining upon the start. The game's afoot: Follow your spirit, and upon this charge Cry 'God for Kamala, America, and Saint George (Clooney)!' |
22 Aug
12:09pm, 22 Aug 2024
22,045 posts
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Chrisull
Oh I think it will hold G. The real question is will it hold/breakthrough in the small number of swing states. Signs are good so far, as JB points out, they look fired up and abortion is on the ballot paper in some swing states like Arizona. Hard to imagine in Arizona when faced with fruitcake Lake for Senator, and choice of abortion yay or nay, that they go Dem senator, pro abortion and Trump.
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22 Aug
12:13pm, 22 Aug 2024
17,668 posts
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jda
larkim wrote: As a starmerite, I'm perfectly happy with the way we're doing things over here. telegraph.co.uk You don't really need to click the link, just looking at the URL will do. |
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22 Aug
12:15pm, 22 Aug 2024
17,669 posts
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jda
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