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5 Jul
9:46am, 5 Jul 2024
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Mushroom
I know there's been a lot of talk about the % share for Labour and Reform, but I'm ever an optimist and looking at the bigger picture since the last election.

Tory / Brexit / Reform share:

45% has fallen to 38%

Lab / LD / Grn / SNP share:
53% has increased slightly to 55%

I'm taking that as a positive. I'm still going to push back on anyone that tells me this is a conservative or right wing leaning country.
SPR
5 Jul
9:46am, 5 Jul 2024
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SPR
I also hope the Tories don't turn more to the right. It legitimises it more if the main opposition is also boosting it.
jda
5 Jul
9:51am, 5 Jul 2024
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jda
When the tories and refuk sort out their petty differences - as they surely will - and the govt’s popularity drifts down through its tenure - likewise - we can all look forward to a far right Faragist presidency in 2029 with an unfettered majority based on about 38% of the vote.

Oh joy.
5 Jul
9:57am, 5 Jul 2024
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paulcook
If we (and by that I probably mean the Labour party) stick our heads in the sand, then that's where we'll head.
5 Jul
9:58am, 5 Jul 2024
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HappyG(rrr)
jda wrote:When the tories and refuk sort out their petty differences - as they surely will - and the govt’s popularity drifts down through its tenure - likewise - we can all look forward to a far right Faragist presidency in 2029 with an unfettered majority based on about 38% of the vote. Oh joy.


Agree, it's a risk. Though I think the chance of a Reform majority is low, a Reform + Cons alliance to a majority is genuine risk. Though can't see a formal coalition. Dunno. Not good.

Re. PR ref - that was 2011. By end of is parliament it will 18 years. That's a generation nearly. It can and should be looked at again.

Best thing would be some kind of "Renew and Modernise UK Democracy" type campaign. PR is just part of it. Generally, getting younger people to have confidence in UK governance - House of Lords, metropolitan mayors, the regions, the 4 nations, the UK, its place in Europe and the world etc. :-) G
5 Jul
10:01am, 5 Jul 2024
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Chrisull
Down to 3 seats left. Poole has gone Labour, so it looks like 2 Lib Dem seats in Scotland to declare and Basildon South and East Thurrock which hopefully goes Labour.
5 Jul
10:05am, 5 Jul 2024
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Chrisull
Complete recount at Basildon south starting at 2pm. Sorry Linds and Kstuart, you are gonna have to wait!
5 Jul
10:05am, 5 Jul 2024
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richmac
Next poll then, the date Sunak resigns as an MP

I'm going Sept 30th '24
5 Jul
10:08am, 5 Jul 2024
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Diogenes
Diogenes wrote:Labour win Hendon by 15 votes


Poole by 18 votes, I’m guessing Basildon must be even closer.
5 Jul
10:08am, 5 Jul 2024
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paulcook
HappyG(rrr) wrote:Agree, it's a risk. Though I think the chance of a Reform majority is low, a Reform + Cons alliance to a majority is genuine risk. Though can't see a formal coalition.


A smart alliance might work a lot more though. Talking for a lot of the North-East, some inner city areas of Yorkshire for example, the Tories will never win. But Reform clearly could. But also many Tory voters won't necessarily vote Reform so it might not be so simple.

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