28 May
10:47am, 28 May 2024
4,965 posts
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paulcook
4th February 2020 "The selections for Labour candidates needs to be more democratic and we should end NEC impositions of candidates. Local Party members should select their candidates for every election." |
28 May
10:56am, 28 May 2024
8,871 posts
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Pothunter
There doesn’t seem to be much time to go through a process of selecting candidates before the lists need to be finalized ahead of the GE. The downside of local selections is that it ends up like the US primaries where two candidates seemingly on the same side end up slagging each other off in public. |
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28 May
10:57am, 28 May 2024
8,872 posts
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Pothunter
Forgot to say re taxes (and I’ve probably said it before) is that the narrative around it needs to move away from a punishment.
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28 May
11:02am, 28 May 2024
4,966 posts
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paulcook
I agree there. But this election is only 6 months maximum before the election had to be held. Quite how and why the parties, particularly the Tories, who have to select a new candidate every 100 minutes, have been so caught out baffles me a little. There's going to be some whoppers in their final selections and I'm sure a lot more vetting from the world searching through social media, relevant history, than the Tories are going to do themselves. Reform have apparently already sacked 100+ candidates this year because stuff has come to light including multiple in the same seat. They won't win a single election, but again there's going to be some interesting candidates in there. Historical statistics prove it. |
28 May
11:14am, 28 May 2024
24,328 posts
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larkim
Last minute candidate selection is definitely something that it makes sense for the HQ to get involved in, even though the principle of letting local party officials select is the one most would want to see adhered to. Not every vacancy that arrives for a candidate will be known long in advance I suppose, and some of the unselected candidates will still (even this election) be in unwinnable constituencies, I would expect (though could be wrong!).
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28 May
11:21am, 28 May 2024
44,436 posts
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SPR
I agree last minute by NEC makes sense, the party will have better vetting powers. I think the suspicion (or in some cases what is known) is that the local party has been blocked from selecting in certain areas where they'd likely have selected a more left wing candidate. Corbyn's constituency is an example as I understand it.
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28 May
11:28am, 28 May 2024
4,967 posts
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paulcook
I've literally just seen an official in one of the last-minute Labour selections complaining about NEC imposition given their previous candidate decided not to stand last year. There's clearly some more nuance to some of the selections. And looking at Starmer's own words, he does at least only use the word "should". |
28 May
11:30am, 28 May 2024
21,555 posts
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Chrisull
The NEC thing is where the likes of Luke Akehurst become involved. He is a non-Jewish pro-Zionist: webelieveinisrael.org.uk Here he is in, his own words on LabourList (starts off reasonable and descends into What-About-Hamas and defending Starmer's words on cutting off water and food, just saying he "could have been clearer") labourlist.org I think it very unlikely they'd vote to let Abbott back in. |
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28 May
11:31am, 28 May 2024
21,556 posts
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Chrisull
Re: pensions, aren't the Tories with the triple lock, introducing a fix for a problem that they created?
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28 May
11:45am, 28 May 2024
4,968 posts
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paulcook
I'm waiting for Luke Akehurst to be one of those selected and send left-wing Twitter into meltdown.
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