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Mar 2023
11:43pm, 2 Mar 2023
20,421 posts
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larkim
Will be interesting to see how he handles it. It will cause a bit of a storm ("no such thing as bad publicity"?) which I'd like to think he's already game-planned; they are pretty predictable tbh. Unusual though for a civil servant to have such a public profile; there are plenty of other mandarins he could have recruited without causing any ripples at all.
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Mar 2023
7:18am, 3 Mar 2023
21,104 posts
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richmac
Could be interpreted as an own goal, leaving labour open to the hysterics of Johnsons chums, the very people who assured us Grey was impartial when everyone thought her inquiry would be the whitewash they tried to make it.
Would be great if we got a statement saying that it was that kind of non co operation that lead her to this job.
But yes, Starmer installing a vastly experienced and supremely competent person who understands the structures of Whitehall and the civil service makes the incoming labour government able to hit the ground running is a great idea. Also, do it now, get the hoo ha out the way. As the Tories humiliate themselves over it, it'll just play better for any GE campaign.
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Mar 2023
7:26am, 3 Mar 2023
8,812 posts
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Fields
Grey man hires Gray woman zzz
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Mar 2023
8:03am, 3 Mar 2023
14,393 posts
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jda
What no-one seems to have realised is that every single senior civil servant is a Labour sleeper agent from decades back, so whichever one Johnson picked to whitewash partygate to the best of their abilities, was going to be later unmasked by Starmer.
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Mar 2023
9:19am, 3 Mar 2023
29,722 posts
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Johnny Blaze
“1. On 8 December 2021 the Prime Minister asked the Cabinet Secretary to carry out an investigation into allegations reported in the media relating to gatherings in No 10 Downing Street and the Department for Education during November and December 2020.
2. On 17 December 2021 the Cabinet Secretary recused himself from the investigation as a result of allegations concerning an online quiz held by his private office in the Cabinet Office on 17 December 2020 in 70 Whitehall. It was at this point that I was asked to lead this work.”
I’ve looked real hard but at no point does Sue Gray’s report indicate that she was appointed by, erm, the Leader of the Opposition…
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Mar 2023
9:22am, 3 Mar 2023
21,105 posts
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richmac
I like the way Johnson's lot esp JRM are making out that it's the establishment, do they not understand that is what they are?
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Mar 2023
9:28am, 3 Mar 2023
22,444 posts
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DeeGee
They mean that other establishment, don't they?
You know, the secret societies and influential groups that previous right-wing governments managed to turn a population against.
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Mar 2023
9:38am, 3 Mar 2023
21,106 posts
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richmac
Like the 1922 committee ?
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Mar 2023
9:57am, 3 Mar 2023
8,814 posts
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Fields
They’re all establishment - Starmer, Gray, Tories etc all part of the problem
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Mar 2023
11:21am, 3 Mar 2023
20,426 posts
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larkim
Does it not get demoralising never seeing the positive in anything in the political arena Fields?
No-one disagrees that the "political class" is too narrowly drawn and large chunks of it represent and advocate for their own vested interests too often, but if you can't at least see some glimmer of a slightly better world than we have today with the only realistic alternative on the table for this cycle of electioneering (i.e. Starmer) then that would thoroughly depress me. Starmer has traits of the establishment about him, but he is not in the same league as the majority of the Tory party (even though it's pretty clear that 30p Lee is less establishment than Starmer is).
Not all establishment is bad, and neither is all non-establishment good.
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