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J2R
Jun 2020
6:49pm, 11 Jun 2020
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J2R
beebop, he probably doesn't see there being a difference.
Jun 2020
8:20pm, 11 Jun 2020
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leaguefreak
I used to be a TalkTalk customer. Dido Harding will have to prise my data from my cold dead hand.
Jun 2020
8:38pm, 11 Jun 2020
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Johnny Blaze
Her handling of the data breaches was sociopathic.
Jun 2020
8:42pm, 11 Jun 2020
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leaguefreak
Indeed. I wasn't a customer at the time of the breaches (I dont think) but it was so well run we spent hours of our lives trying to extract service from them that we called it TalkTalk Bumbrand after the eldest's mispronunciation of how they answered calls.

Public sector IT projects don't have a great history and the government doesn't seem to be doong any better with this one.
Jun 2020
8:47pm, 11 Jun 2020
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leaguefreak
I think the analysis of the government only caring about those they need to appeal to is spot on. Which makes me very sad. And unsure what I will do when we next get the chance to vote.
Jun 2020
8:52pm, 11 Jun 2020
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ftrobbie
I'm afraid I'm of an age that NOTA happens to appear on most of my ballot sheets. I'll vote but I trust any of them about as far as I can kick them in bare feet up a vertical cliff. The difference to me is how do you want to be screwed.
Jun 2020
9:39pm, 11 Jun 2020
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Dave W
On a different note..

Probation services in England and Wales will be fully restored to public ownership and control, the justice secretary has announced, marking the final nail in the coffin of Chris Grayling’s disastrous privatisation changes.

This was another totally predictable fuck-up by the Tory "Private Good, Public Bad" brigade. I know Grayling hasn't got two brain cells to rub together, but those imbeciles put him in charge of things.

Trouble is, they just won't accept that they are wrong. See all the private companies getting money hand over fist during this crisis.

Serco, FFS. They couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery.
Jun 2020
9:43pm, 11 Jun 2020
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Dave W
Grayling ignored significant warnings from within his department to push through his reforms in 2014. MPs on the public accounts committee said the changes were rushed through at breakneck speed, taking “unacceptable risks” with taxpayers’ money.

The justice committee described the overhaul as a “mess” and warned it might never work.
Since the reforms were introduced, the government has had to bail out the private providers by more than HALF A BILLION POUNDS.
Jun 2020
10:25pm, 11 Jun 2020
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Markymarkmark
Good news it's coming back into "public" management though. Maybe it will be properly funded too, although I'm not optimistic about that.
Jun 2020
1:19pm, 12 Jun 2020
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Chrisull
Nice dead cat from Boris: "The statue of Winston Churchill in Parliament Square is a permanent reminder of his achievement in saving this country – and the whole of Europe – from a fascist and racist tyranny. 1/8"

And also some left baiting going on as well "It is absurd and shameful that this national monument should today be at risk of attack by violent protestors. Yes, he sometimes expressed opinions that were and are unacceptable to us today, but he was a hero, and he fully deserves his memorial. 2/8"

Note the euphemism "expressed opinions" which is code for helped slaughter a million in India or support for gassing the Kurds and Afghans in 1919.

It is a trap though:

1) Takes the spotlight off 63,000 dead and rising and while the science was and is not clear-cut, it was obvious then that an earlier lockdown would have been prudent and sensible - and now you can probably say has cost 20,000-30,000 lives

2) Nothing the public likes to see more than then left attack itself over identity politics and voice support for violent uprisings... yeah right! Nothing will drive them back quicker into the arms of the racist, rich, thuggish evil (but patriotic so hey it's ok) they do know.

Labour already losing 3-4 points over this, and Starmer has actually played it sensibly, cautiously and well IMO.

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