Aug 2019
12:10pm, 21 Aug 2019
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Stander
Nothing much that I'm aware of Surelynot.
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Aug 2019
12:31pm, 21 Aug 2019
3,506 posts
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run free
J2R am hoping the xenophobia does not escalate to the same as the US. Though have heard some local folk who voted Leave say how they hate certain EU countries. In the early years would the majority of British people be from the main continent - Anglo-Saxons; Romans; Vikings; Normandy.... so am pretty sure that those folk would have genes from say France. So gonna have to be ready for some good rhetoric for 31 Oct if BJ gets his way of a No Deal. |
Aug 2019
12:34pm, 21 Aug 2019
569 posts
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Albert O Balsam
No, nothing going on Surelynot - they're all on recess until Sept 3rd and then I think it's soon going to be conference season so probably packing until then. Alexander was muttering something about heading off to Germany today on the telly. Rather stilted though and I thought he sounded 'not quite right.' |
Aug 2019
12:53pm, 21 Aug 2019
9,036 posts
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rf_fozzy
Some Tarriff stuff (from a longer thread): "It's this basic. For the business selling clothes, a tariff of 12% will tip it into losses. For the materials company that’s calculated tariff costs of £1.5million, it'll halve its profit margin of £3million For the leather firm, a 6.5% tariff will wipe out their profit margin. For the automotive company, a 10% tariff will wipe out its 3% profit margin. That basic. Before you add anything else" twitter.com And before anyone says, well prices will go up to compensate. Note that this means the company sells less (or someone undercuts them) and they still go bust. Brexit still worth it? No didn't think so. |
Aug 2019
1:08pm, 21 Aug 2019
8,351 posts
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larkim
Whilst I don't disagree with that, the counter-argument is that the long term economic growth because of Brexit (hypothetical) compensates, and there may overall be a differential impact for net importing businesses vs net exporting. It's another of those arguments which both sides claim to win, which is ultimately because the world is not as simple as that. Bottom line is, we know where we stand ref tariffs for our major markets by being in the EU. Are we so strong economically that we can categorically be independent and put ourselves in a better position than we are today? (My answer is a clear "no" of course). |
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Aug 2019
1:51pm, 21 Aug 2019
2,281 posts
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Fellrunning
The Greenland thing is entirely in line with US policy on the Arctic. The Trump administration see the melting of the Greenland ice cap and Arctic sea ice as a good thing as it will open up trade routes and access to unexploited mineral resources. They've refused to ratify a number of treaties designed to protect the Arctic on these very grounds. The 57,000 odd Innuit who live in Greenland should notice little difference as the US would merely continue the existing Danish policy of plying them with alcohol, denying them employment and killing them with European diseases. |
Aug 2019
1:52pm, 21 Aug 2019
15,019 posts
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Chrisull
Sky news on why Corbyn is remainers best hope, but many have have become too radicalised to accept this: news.sky.com (as several of us, including me, have been saying all along) |
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Aug 2019
2:05pm, 21 Aug 2019
15,021 posts
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Chrisull
This is a good article and reminder on the how the dangerous radical Ed Miliband was perceived by the press in the run up to 2015, and how social democrat Jeremy Corbyn is likely to suffer the same fate in the runup to the 2019 election (and let's be honest any true socialists on here will be disappointed with how lukewarm, wishywashy and middle of the road his social democratism has been). theguardian.com Miliband was flawed. Corbyn more so. But I'd take either over Johnson or Swinson anyday. |
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Aug 2019
3:41pm, 21 Aug 2019
15,952 posts
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Stander
Regarding the tariffs thing above, prior to the 29th March deadline that came an went, the UK unilaterally announced a 0% tariff on car parts. And some other tariffs on dairy and china products as well, I believe. As that date came and went these were probably never formally enacted, but I'd suspect it would be repeated for 31st October as part of the No Deal plans. And yes, I appreciate that removes the tariff coming in and not out, but its an example of what could be a simple - if temporary - fix for some things. In fact, as I search the BBC news website for an article I read this morning regarding importing, I see Gove has been taking about tariffs and possible upcoming changes. Found the article. Economic Operator Registration and Identification (EORI) numbers are being issued to firms within the next two weeks as without an EORI number you can't trade with the EU apparently. This is all simple, boring shit but if you dig and find it, then its quite clear that works are being done to prepare for a No Deal exit and I'm damn sure there are other things being done that are not considered newsworthy enough to report but which are already happening to get ready for 31st October. |
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Aug 2019
3:43pm, 21 Aug 2019
15,953 posts
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Stander
"The CBI said it was "a sensible move" but "one of hundreds of things that needed to be done" in a no-deal event. " Quote from the BBC article. Even the CBI (who are massively pro-Remain) are behind this EORI number thing. |
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