Polarized training

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J2R
Jun 2015
10:46am, 15 Jun 2015
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J2R
Spen71, I think if you can do any kind of regular aerobic exercise, you can very much slow down the fitness loss. The really rapid drop-off occurs if you're just sitting around doing nothing, but if you can avoid that, you might be OK. I know local runners who've kept up their fitness while injured by regular swimming, pool running, etc. (and of course, cycling, where possible) and have come back to full running fitness remarkably quickly once they've got over their injury.
Jun 2015
11:22am, 15 Jun 2015
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Chrisull
Don't let's forget walking even. Funnily enough I know some ultra runners, one who had to give up the Grand Union Canal Run after 85 miles, not because he couldn't run, it but he couldn't handle the walking sections! One of my clubs top runners has broken his arm and is walking 5 miles a day to keep fit as he cant bike, swim or run currently.
Jun 2015
9:52am, 16 Jun 2015
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flanker
We do a fair bit of walking as part of our training. Most ultras will involve some walking, and training it means being able to do it efficiently, quickly and without putting unfamiliar strains on the body. It's also good exercise for the days when you really CBA to go out for a run.
Jun 2015
10:21pm, 17 Jun 2015
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tipsku
Thanks for that information, Canute. 50% sounds like a massive drop and it explains why I am where I am at the moment. I lost a total of 8 weeks of training in spring and I still feel the effects of that. While aerobic fitness seems to be getting near to where it was before, I still have a long way to go in terms of race fitness.
Jun 2015
7:51pm, 18 Jun 2015
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Spen71
Discovered i have turf toe (ligament damage )so could be out for weeks
Jun 2015
8:35pm, 18 Jun 2015
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Canute
That is a rel shame. What cross training can you do?
Jun 2015
6:14pm, 19 Jun 2015
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GlennR
That blows goats Spen.
Jun 2015
7:25pm, 19 Jun 2015
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Spen71
Going to try to cycle but work long hours and stay in hotel room.
SPR
Jun 2015
7:17pm, 21 Jun 2015
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SPR
Hope you're back fit soon Spen.

Given I've just had two months off running + 2 months of stop/ start, I'm very interested in how long it takes to regain fitness.

Strength will be fine as I've been weightlifting. Clean and jerks certainly raise the heartrate but they're not an aerobic activity. I did a bit of cycling but not consistently.

Although I may do some late season track races, I've pretty much written off this season.
J2R
Jun 2015
4:05pm, 22 Jun 2015
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J2R
This is another kind of interim report...

The jury's still out for me on polarized training - but that's just my natural scepticism at work, and everything has in fact been positive so far. I've been following a largely polarized programme now for the last couple of months, using it to subtly modify my existing training programme rather than radically overhaul it. I can't definitively say that it's working for me, yet - but I can say for certain that it hasn't screwed anything up badly! Yesterday I managed to achieve one of those targets I thought I might never attain before I got too old to do so (I'm 55 next month), a sub-hour 10 miler (I ran 59:46). Absolutely elated to do so.

I would say following the polarized training model allows me to sustain a higher weekly mileage without such risk of injury, and I think consistent week in, week out training is always invaluable for getting the results. If your training is happening in fits and starts, it's a lot more difficult. I think also that I'm coping better this year with the high number of races and park runs around this period, because I'm easing off more in between them, and thus perhaps (so far!) avoiding the staleness which can so easily happen.

Heart rate yesterday for the last 9 miles was 91-92% of working heart rate

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Polarised training is a form of training that places emphasis on the two extremes of intensity. There is a large amount of low intensity training (comfortably below lactate threshold) and an appreciable minority of high intensity training (above LT).

Polarised training does also include some training near lactate threshold, but the amount of threshold training is modest, in contrast to the relatively high proportion of threshold running that is popular among some recreational runners.

Polarised training is not new. It has been used for many years by many elites and some recreational runners. However, it has attracted great interest in recent years for two reasons.

First, detailed reviews of the training of many elite endurance athletes confirms that they employ a polarised approach (typically 80% low intensity, 10% threshold and 10% high intensity. )

Secondly, several scientific studies have demonstrated that for well trained athletes who have reached a plateau of performance, polarised training produces greater gains in fitness and performance, than other forms of training such as threshold training on the one hand, or high volume, low intensity training on the other.

Much of the this evidence was reviewed by Stephen Seiler in a lecture delivered in Paris in 2013 .
vimeo.com

In case you cannot access that lecture by Seiler in 2013, here is a link to his more recent TED talk.

ted.com
This has less technical detail than his 2013 talk, but is nonetheless a very good introduction to the topic. It should be noted that from the historical perspective, Seiler shows a US bias.

Here is another useful video by Stephen Seiler in which he discusses the question of the optimum intensity and duration of low intensity sessions. Although the answer ‘depends on circumstances’ he proposes that a low intensity session should be long enough to reach the point where there are detectable indications of rising stress (either the beginning of upwards drift of HR or increased in perceived effort). If longer than this, there is increasing risk of damaging effects. A session shorter than this might not be enough to produce enough stress to achieve a useful training effect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GXc474Hu5U


The coach who probably deserves the greatest credit for emphasis on the value of low intensity training was Arthur Lydiard, who coached some of the great New Zealanders in the 1960's and Scandinavians in the 1970’s. One of his catch-phrases was 'train, don't strain'. However Lydiard never made it really clear what he meant by ‘quarter effort’. I have discussed Lydiard’s ideas on several occasions on my Wordpress blog. For example: canute1.wordpress.com

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