Polarized training
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Dec 2022
9:47am, 4 Dec 2022
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Bowman 🇸🇪
I made a feature request for the possibility to have hr zones instead of pace zones on the yearly infographic FEATURE 1538 |
Dec 2022
11:20am, 4 Dec 2022
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Steve NordRunner
I like that. Here it is fetcheveryone.com/featurevoting?sort=id&keyword=1538
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Dec 2022
12:44pm, 4 Dec 2022
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Bowman 🇸🇪
Thanks Steve!
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Feb 2023
12:22pm, 28 Feb 2023
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Chrisull
Saw this interesting article, by Alex Hutchinson on the "Norwegian Method" and how it works on top of polarized training: outsideonline.com |
Feb 2023
12:45pm, 28 Feb 2023
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Canute
Thanks, that article by Alex Hutchinson is interesting. As I understand it, the reason for minimising threshold sessions in a polarised approach is the need for long recovery after a sustained threshold session. It is interesting that the threshold intervals in the Norwegian method aim to keep lactate below 3 mmol, thereby allowing more rapid recovery. |
Feb 2023
1:21pm, 28 Feb 2023
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SPR
I like how the article says nothing is new as others have done interval methods previously (Igloi mentioned in the article for example), although they didn't necessarily gain mainstream awareness. The new bit to me here is the specific measurement of lactate. What they're doing sounds like what the Easy Interval Method tries to do but that doesn't like easy running at all. Wonder if HR + PEL are good enough proxies for lactate measurement? |
Feb 2023
1:35pm, 28 Feb 2023
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jda
The workouts look fairly similar to the sort of thing I do, albeit at a much lower volume. I'm not measuring my lactate but am pretty confident it's staying quite low, I just don't have the power or speed to do myself any real damage:-)
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Feb 2023
1:50pm, 28 Feb 2023
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tipsku
I've extended my running at marathon and HM pace by doing intervals, e.g. 3:30/0:30 for Sunday's HM at marathon pace. HR is coming down by 3-5 BPM during the 30 seconds easier where I drop about a minute per mile in pace. I recover more quickly when I do that. 16.5 miles with 13 miles at MP would do quite some damage if I tried to run them continuously. Today, 2 days later, I'm in good shape to do some strides. I'll try another lactate shuttle run tomorrow where I'm going to cycle between MP, HMP and 10k pace. |
Feb 2023
1:52pm, 28 Feb 2023
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SPR
I've done 8 x 1000, 800 easy recovery today which is an easy interval session. Provided I resist the temptation to run 'fast' (which was easy today after a progressive run and weights yesterday), then I can see how another session later would work later. I could certainly do 10 x 400 this evening I think knowing I had an easy day tomorrow. Certainly something I might consider next Winter. I might have been tempted today but my right foot needs some recovery from a twist at the National XC on Saturday (I've gone over on my ankle playing spot so much that it's my foot that suffers these days rather than lateral ankle ligaments).
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Feb 2023
1:53pm, 28 Feb 2023
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Canute
This approach is similar to several ‘easy’ interval’ methods (eg Verheul) and has some resemblance to Zatopek’s famous sessions that are sometimes described as ‘cruise intervals’. I do not think lactate measure is likely to be crucial, even for ‘serious' recreational athletes, but is perhaps worthwhile at elite level. Experience of the urge to breathe is likely to be the most accessible direct sensation of blood acidity, but HR + perceived effort can be measured more reliably. I rely on the sensation of breathing, but I am not aiming for optimum training benefit. My aim is to produce enjoyably effortful running without too much wear and tear on my body.
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