"Physics of falling says professional athletes are running wrong" - article.

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GordonG Sep 2015 10:09am, 30 Sep 2015 6,731 posts	0 GordonG article in New Scientist newscientist.com I'm sure there'll be plenty of Fetchies with opinions about this...
J2R Sep 2015 10:50am, 30 Sep 2015 163 posts	0 J2R It's always interesting to read stuff like this. But I have to say I would tend to give a little more credence to science which attempts to explain why the world's most successful runners run the way they do, what it is about what they do which works, rather than suggesting that they've got it all wrong.
simbil Sep 2015 10:59am, 30 Sep 2015 6,919 posts	0 simbil It's a flawed argument - you cannot use 'angular momentum' in one part of the gait without correcting it in another - so it gives no net gain when running on the flat. There were arguments about this for about a billion pages on the efficient running thread
GordonG Sep 2015 11:15am, 30 Sep 2015 6,732 posts	0 GordonG i assumed there would be, simbil, which is why i ducked after posting the link!
Binks Sep 2015 11:16am, 30 Sep 2015 6,728 posts	0 Binks With these kinds of things elite runners tend to already be years ahead of what is explained by science. Like in the case of the Kenyans and the Altitude, there was something unexplained going on making the Kenyans better than everyone else. It became known in time that they happened to live high up and this helped a little bit. Running isn't going to improve from what some guy in a lab has done. There are millions of runners out there and they are a huge optimisation experiment it itself which leads to the best methods. Best thing to do it to look at those who are already the fastest.
eL Bee! Sep 2015 11:21am, 30 Sep 2015 19,978 posts	0 eL Bee! I only focuses on ONE aspect of the gait cycle, which is what adds to the confusion. An awful lot happens at the same time, and people tend to think in terms of static models which, although useful, are limited in their usefulness. And the arguments on the MERS were way too complex for your average joe to get their heads around!
eL Bee! Sep 2015 11:25am, 30 Sep 2015 19,979 posts	0 eL Bee! Besides - the 'physics of falling' actually shows that the top elite runners are actually doing it better than everyone else!! That and genetics, obviously! And protein...... apparently
Ninky Nonk Sep 2015 11:27am, 30 Sep 2015 2,066 posts	0 Ninky Nonk Couldn't agree more about use of statics to explain dynamics el bee. People seem to not fully understand or forget newton's laws of motion.
Nellers Sep 2015 1:25pm, 30 Sep 2015 30,136 posts	0 Nellers "The angle of the dangle is directly proportionate to the lust of the thrust". Is it that one, Ninky Nonk, or am I confusing it with Ball's Law?;-)
The_Saint Sep 2015 1:55pm, 30 Sep 2015 5,764 posts	0 The_Saint quackwatch.com