17 Apr
12:37pm, 17 Apr 2025
28,241 posts
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57.5 Degrees of Pain
A very narrow legal definition about biological sex has no impact on anything related to gender. Doubtless it'll embolden certain groups though.
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17 Apr
1:31pm, 17 Apr 2025
37,463 posts
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Hills of Death (HOD)
parkrun*
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17 Apr
7:47pm, 17 Apr 2025
1,077 posts
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OO61
I agree larkim but I think it would be too complex for parkrun to unravel gender self selection, so they won't touch it. I do sympathise with biological women losing records to biological men, but I leave it up to them to fight the cause and articulate the case.
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7:12am
7:12am, 18 Apr 2025
27,127 posts
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larkim
I do think parkrun is in a tough spot on this issue. There are good numbers of women who feel incredibly strongly about the fact that their sporting performance is undermined by the ability of a person to choose how they identify in parkruns results without being questioned. And there are good numbers of women who couldn't care less. And good numbers of women who actively support the concept of self identification. So there is no solution parkrun can provide that will satisfy all.
All views have some logical merit, it just depends where ones personal set of values intersects. It's been a wedge issue for the "Left".
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8:28am
8:28am, 18 Apr 2025
206 posts
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Meep Meep
Parkrun are in a crack. That they aren't a race is a message they shout from the rooftops. To say "ok, sod it, we'll just operate exactly like a race and introduce rules for competition" isn't on the cards for them.
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8:31am
8:31am, 18 Apr 2025
207 posts
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Meep Meep
Maybe they could get some of the way there with a "as of now we will be ceasing to use the word gender in our policy documents due to legal definitions in some of the territories in which we operate". Dunno how else they might tackle it.
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8:44am
8:44am, 18 Apr 2025
18,693 posts
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jda
I have a lot of sympathy with genetic women, or whatever the currently preferred nomenclature is (really, no offence intended, I just lose track…) over sport in general but …. Parkrun, really? It’s just a run in a park, if you care about competitive sport then go and race somewhere. The inclusion argument wins out for me in this particular case. Not that I have any skin in the game either way. It’s not run under any sporting authority, not subject to any sort of rules about fair competition, drug testing, equipment, whatever.
It’s not competitive sport any more than riding a bike to work and trying to overtake the person in front is.
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9:56am
9:56am, 18 Apr 2025
28,224 posts
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Bazoaxe
I dont see any issue with parkruns approach. They clearly ask for gender not sex and with other options if people want them. They are not a competition or race and award no prizes. Nothing therefore changes.
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