How is your running surviving Covid chaos?

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jda
Apr 2020
12:11pm, 8 Apr 2020
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jda
The easy answer is to let people go outside. It's really not the problem here. And the more freedom people have to do diverse things at all times, the less likely there is to be crowding. I'm certainly seeing nothing but sensible behaviour locally, even if some are actually breaking the rules to a moderate extent (eg walking with a friend but usually at a decent distance). There was definitely crowding at local beauty spots in that spell of good weather right at the start, but people have got the message now and it's no longer a problem (AIUI).

I also know someone who visits a local church at their regular time, alone or with a family member. No service, no other people. Technically wrong of course, there's no reasonable excuse for it (and they are not an office-holder). I don't care - but I do wonder if they might, if they realise they are breaking the law. No, I am not going to tell them and cause them stress/worry/whatever.
Apr 2020
12:30pm, 8 Apr 2020
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Sharkie
Just a me-ish answer to the thread question here:

With track closed for the foreseeable I need to find a flat surface to sprint on, within walking distance from the house. Not so easy in hilly Hastings. A woman can have enough of sprint hill session.

There's a lumpy bumpy football pitch half a mile away so I tested it this morning. No problem social distancing apart from an excitable off lead German Shepherd. Fortunately I'm used to GSDs. It was ok, if not ideal, for my 3 x (30-40-50) plus a load of drills obvs.

The prom is great for longer sprints ... but realistically it's a mile+ drive there rather than a walk.
Apr 2020
12:37pm, 8 Apr 2020
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Canute
To me, the wording of the current government regulations regarding restriction of movement are sensible. However, there has been an unfortunate lack of clarity in official advice about the interpretation and implementation of the regulations. On this thread and other Fetch threads we have seen diverse opinions about the sensible interpretations of regulations. That is understandable. In my view this debate it is healthy. This includes implied or direct criticism of some responses by the police.

However, the debateable evidence regarding the details of transmission of the virus via aerosols and also the uncertainly about duration of persistence of infective virus particles (as opposed merely to RNA) on surfaces, means that at present it would be unwise to be too dogmatic about sensible implementation of the regulations. As Lord Finkelstein wisely said in an interview with Emily Maitlis on the BBC last week, we need kindness on both sides of the debate. Fortunately, it appears that a lot of people are getting on with reasonably sensible implementation without too much angst.
Apr 2020
12:49pm, 8 Apr 2020
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Canute
Sharkie, in my view a 1 mile drive to a suitable place for exercise is sensible, and I think the police would generally be OK with this.

I was amused by the recent account on a fetch thread about the response of a polceman who stopped a woman who was driving to exercise her horse. She was surprised he simply accepted her explanation, with the reply: 'I have learned not to argue with

horsey women' Of course I would not wish to imply any similarity between a dedicated athlete and a horsey woman, but I would be confident you could deal with the situation if questioned by a policeman.
jda
Apr 2020
12:52pm, 8 Apr 2020
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jda
I don't disagree with Canute but am a little surprised that a whole mile is beyond the pale for a sprinter to warm up/cool down.

No judgment (honest!), just surprised :-)
Apr 2020
12:55pm, 8 Apr 2020
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Pikelet
While I'm working from home full time I would prefer to split my run in two and run at lunch and the again after work. Ideally for 3-4 miles each run. It would help split the long boring day up a bit.

I haven't done this as I don't want to get 'outed' on social media for going out more than once!
Apr 2020
12:57pm, 8 Apr 2020
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Pikelet
By social media I don't mean Fetch (obvs) :-)
Apr 2020
12:58pm, 8 Apr 2020
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Binks
Recommendations are always going to be fuzzy. I get why they might say "don't do any unnecessary driving" to stop people going to crowded areas, but if someone say living in a city drove to an isolated park to walk their dog or go for a run then that's fine. No hard rule or law will be able to nail this properly.

I think we need to be sympathetic to the Police. I saw a photo of a policeman asking a question of a sunbather in a park with no one else in sight. There were the two groups of outrage. "Why is she in the park???" and "Why is that policeman harassing that poor woman who is miles away from anyone else??"

I think the woman was fine to be there. I think the Police were ok just to ask. They are still figuring out how to do this. From what I gather there have been very few instances of the police being draconian about the rules. Splitting up big groups and parties is fine.

Luckily some travellers have just pitched up near me so the busy-bodies are facebooking the arse out of that right now, so I might head out for 17 runs today.
Apr 2020
1:01pm, 8 Apr 2020
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Gobi
JDA - my sprinters used to do a mile WU and CD but I can confess the mile CD was often an issue rather than the WU so SHarkie may get there OK but be too ruined to get home :¬)
Apr 2020
1:06pm, 8 Apr 2020
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Sharkie
Gobi knows his sprinters! :-)

And yeah I'd be fine running/walking down the hill - it's part of the Hastings Half - but NO WAY back up. 400m jog about my limit for a warm up and I complain about that. Am happy to do drills and strides for 45 minutes though.

About This Thread

Maintained by Canute
Covid-19 case numbers continue to rise exponentially in the UK.

It is even more crucial to do everything we can to slow the rate of onset of new cases. Nonetheless, exercise remains important for our health.

The relevant piece of the legislation in England is:

The Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (England) Regulations 2020

Restrictions on movement

6.—(1) During the emergency period, no person may leave the place where they are living without reasonable excuse.

(2) For the purposes of paragraph (1), a reasonable excuse includes the need—

(a) to obtain basic necessities, including food and medical supplies for those in the same household (including any pets or animals in the household) or for vulnerable persons and supplies for the essential upkeep, maintenance and functioning of the household, or the household of a vulnerable person, or to obtain money, including from any business listed in Part 3 of Schedule 2;

(b) to take exercise either alone or with other members of their household;

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That is an abbreviated version. Here is a link to a more comprehensive specification of section 6:
legislation.gov.uk

Similar regulations apply in Scotland, where section 8, (5) (b) states:
(b) to take exercise, either alone or with other members of their household.
In Northern Ireland, section 5 (2) (b) is the same:
(b) to take exercise either alone or with other members of their household;

In Wales, the regulations state that you can leave the house no more than once a day for exercise, The relevant section [section 8] states:

(b) to take exercise, no more than once a day, either alone or with other members of the household.

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Here is a link to the guidance regarding a reasonable excuse to leave the house, issued by the National Police Chiefs Council (for England):
college.police.uk
Note added 26th May: unfortunately the clear guidelines issued in April have been taken down and replaced by a more complex collection of documents.
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The fact that the government accepts the importance of exercise places a responsibility on us to exercise in a way that reduces our risk of becoming a clinical case rather than increasing our risk.

Here is a review of the factors that influence the relationship between exercise and function of the immune system
fetcheveryone.com/blog/13360/2020/3#blog403926

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