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Aug 2020
12:34pm, 17 Aug 2020
12,661 posts
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Badger
Because saunas do nothing whatsoever for your muscle strength, speed & co-ordination?
The advantage of the vascular remodelling/adaptation is that you can sustain a given pace for longer without so much cardiac drift - good for long distance ability - but it does nothing for power or for muscle endurance directly, and larkim's cool down I think would have been no better for those than a sauna.
Your HR still being up at 140 would just suggest that you were in need of a bit of high temperature conditioning 
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Aug 2020
12:44pm, 17 Aug 2020
71,127 posts
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Gobi
Larks - polarized training thread
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Aug 2020
12:50pm, 17 Aug 2020
11,708 posts
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larkim
Ta Gobi - yep, that's the post. I didn't think I read that thread, but I clearly did!!
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Aug 2020
4:15pm, 18 Aug 2020
309 posts
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Looby Loo
Any advice on where to start. My heart is usually off the scale. I have read up and trying to go lower means I have to go super slow. I have been trying to do some easier runs but struggle to keep my HR down.
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Aug 2020
4:19pm, 18 Aug 2020
2,919 posts
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J2R
Looby Loo, how much running have you done? If you are new to running, yes, you will find your heart rate is often alarmingly high. But as you start putting in steady mileage, your heart rate for a given pace begins to drop, bit by bit, as if by magic. I wouldn't worry too much about it for now, assuming you're not an experienced runner. What kind of numbers are you talking about?
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Aug 2020
4:29pm, 18 Aug 2020
71,143 posts
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Gobi
Added to J2R comments
Do you have accurate resting and max hr numbers?
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Aug 2020
4:36pm, 18 Aug 2020
20,512 posts
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Dvorak
(From her training log, quite a lot, J2R )
What have you been reading, Looby Loo? From just a quick look at your training, I wouldn't describe those numbers as off the scale, or anywhere near it. I suspect some of the higher recent numbers are heat (and hill!) related. Ballpark, if you are keeping it below say 148 BPM average on a slow, flat run (if you have such a thing), that's alright.
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Aug 2020
4:55pm, 18 Aug 2020
310 posts
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Looby Loo
Thanks for the response. Running regularly for about 12 years. Never going to break any records but always jealous of Low HR numbers. As mine regularly goes to 180’s there’s nowhere for me to go when I’m trying to improve. I’m a 10mm really but if I want my heart in the 140’s I’ve had to do 12/13mm. Tried to do 120’s once and ended up walking.
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Aug 2020
4:57pm, 18 Aug 2020
311 posts
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Looby Loo
And not really got any numbers from a test but my watch tells me the low is 48 not sure of max.
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Aug 2020
5:02pm, 18 Aug 2020
71,146 posts
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Gobi
For heart rate training to work youbhave to go slow to go fast.
Without a max HR everything is just speculation
If I ran at 146 HR DV I'd be running 6.xx and that's not an easy run
Steady maybe but not easy.
Data not speculation rules the hr world.
I have a resting of 38 seen today and a max of 182
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