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Jun 2020
3:20pm, 25 Jun 2020
1,277 posts
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Paul N
Little old ladies are zooming by me!
9 miles at lunch time, with a little over 500ft of climb - a nice rolling trail run. Tried to run it at 140 BPM, averaged 10:13 minute/miles!
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Jun 2020
3:39pm, 25 Jun 2020
266 posts
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Shades
Paul N - it will be worth it. Heat and humidity make HR training hard as enormous amount of patience required to stick to HR.
But you're still training at the right HR and therefore will still get the benefit of the training session.
Then in cooler and fresher conditions you'll be flying along.
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Jun 2020
3:47pm, 25 Jun 2020
70,418 posts
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Gobi
patience is key with any Heart rate work
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Jun 2020
4:00pm, 25 Jun 2020
36,584 posts
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Nellers
Paul N, when I was running properly a wise man (Gobi actually. Still grateful, mate.) told me to slow down and, along with others on this thread, told me how to use my HR monitor properly.
I rarely ran quicker than 9:30/mile in training from then on but I went through about 3 years of improving PBs at 5k, 10k and Half, all of which were considerably quicker than 9:30 miling!
Genuinely, mate, put the ego away, let those old ladies do their thing, and be patient and you'll see the gains from it eventually. In the meantime enjoy not feeling shattered after every run.
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Jun 2020
4:14pm, 25 Jun 2020
70,424 posts
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Gobi
No space for ego when training !!
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Jun 2020
4:31pm, 25 Jun 2020
1,278 posts
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Paul N
I've little to be egotistical about!
Just shocked at how slow I have to go to keep at 140.
And I think 140 itself probably a bit high!
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Jun 2020
4:40pm, 25 Jun 2020
1,334 posts
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TheBeardRunner (aka Abul Choudhury
At 143bpm I'm running about 12:30 miles per minute. It's all relative
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Jun 2020
4:40pm, 25 Jun 2020
36,585 posts
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Nellers
What I think that really tells you is that your training previously has been too fast/in the grey zone. You've been putting far more effort in than you needed to for the training effect you've got. It's going to take a bit of time for your head to adjust but it will if you stick to it.
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Jun 2020
4:48pm, 25 Jun 2020
36,586 posts
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Nellers
I would add that I never got to be as fast as you Paul N, but I did improve quite a lot using low intensity training. I bet you can get even faster than you are doing the same.
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Jun 2020
4:59pm, 25 Jun 2020
2,809 posts
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J2R
I reckon in these high temperatures (just did 8 miles at around 28C), my heart rate is probably 7-10 beats per minute higher for the same pace. Makes a big difference. Your heart is busy pumping blood to your capillaries to keep cool and has to work harder to maintain the same running pace at the same time.
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