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Chrisull
Chrisull
Apr 2019
11:32am, 22 Apr 2019
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Chrisull
Been seeing some adverts on Facebook for Stryd (the power monitor foot tool), seems according to reviewers that there are power zones that correlate roughly to heart rate zones? Anyone any experience of monitoring and using power output for running (yes I know cyclists do this already), in the same way that HR zones are used?

Sounds interesting, also possibly explains why with no change in running but with extra strength drills that my HR zones came tumbling down.
larkim
larkim
Apr 2019
11:22am, 30 Apr 2019
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I know one runner who swears by his Stryd. Too pricey for me, but would like to try one out for a month or so to see what it tells me / confirms to me.

I'm getting fed up with nonsensical HR data from my Wahoo Tickr Run at the moment, so thinking of splashing cash on a Garmin HRM. Which is the preferred recommendation at the moment?

This one? amazon.co.uk

Or this one? amazon.co.uk

Obviously I'd prefer the former to be recommended, but if the red one is the one to go for I think I could be persuaded. Or should I just accept that for some reason my chest / t-shirt combinations aren't going to be a reliable source of HR data, so an arm band should be the preferred option?
GlennR
GlennR
Apr 2019
11:30am, 30 Apr 2019
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Larkin, I have both those straps and found the red one more reliable. Also more useful for a triathlete, but that may not be your affliction.
larkim
larkim
Apr 2019
11:32am, 30 Apr 2019
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More reliable in any specific way? The evils of Tri are not for me, but I like the sound of the additional oscillation data etc.
GlennR
GlennR
Apr 2019
11:59am, 30 Apr 2019
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You'd have to ask someone like Badger for the science, but I suspect the fixed position and wiring of the transmitter improves the readings. It's also comfy. The extra data is also fun.
GlennR
GlennR
Apr 2019
12:03pm, 30 Apr 2019
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Of course, if you want extra data there's always the new 945...

dcrainmaker.com
larkim
larkim
Apr 2019
12:25pm, 30 Apr 2019
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I reckon I'm going to have to wait for a significant birthday to earn such a significant toy!

When you say "improves the readings", I'm guessing the thing that I have issues with is better - dodgy data due to some form of interference (usually static as far as I can tell, certainly something to do with my t-shirts as if I strip off they disappear). When I can see granular data in the trace (i.e. movements of 1 or 2 bpm on a frequent basis, broadly correlating with running on an uneven surface) I have high confidence in the readings. When it is static for minutes on end (see my run last night for example fetcheveryone.com/t-16201291 ) I know it's not right.
JCB
JCB
Apr 2019
12:44pm, 30 Apr 2019
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I see what you mean larkim. Is it a bit loose or not good enough contact at the start? I’ve found similar at times where it has gone erratic later in a long run.
StuH
StuH
Apr 2019
12:47pm, 30 Apr 2019
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I've certainly found the red integrated HRM-Run to be much better than the HRM3 with snap on unit. Not noticed any spikes or cadence lock.
larkim
larkim
Apr 2019
12:53pm, 30 Apr 2019
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It's utterly inconsistent day by day, so no tinkering around with width. I have the same routine every time, wet the contacts, put it on, head out. Yet sometimes it is beat-perfect, sometimes it is utterly bonkers, and sometimes it is somewhere in between.

I've tried different devices, different straps, fresh batteries, contact gel, different tensions etc. The only thing that does make a difference is if I take my t-shirt off, and frankly no-one around where I live wants to see me doing that ;-)

So I'm left with the thought that I should either find a different type of device (hence the arm-based ones might be OK) or try a more expensive chest strap.

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Everything you need to know about training with a heart rate monitor. Remember the motto "I can maintain a fast pace over the race distance because I am an Endurance God". Mind the trap door....

Gobi lurks here, but for his advice you must first speak his name. Ask and you shall receive.

A quote:

"The area between the top of the aerobic threshold and anaerobic threshold is somewhat of a no mans land of fitness. It is a mix of aerobic and anaerobic states. For the amount of effort the athlete puts forth, not a whole lot of fitness is produced. It does not train the aerobic or anaerobic energy system to a high degree. This area does have its place in training; it is just not in base season. Unfortunately this area is where I find a lot of athletes spending the majority of their seasons, which retards aerobic development. The athletes heart rate shoots up to this zone with little power or speed being produced when it gets there." Matt Russ, US International Coach
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