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Nov 2018
5:44pm, 29 Nov 2018
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hillstrider
Hi Steve, yes I've only recently found this thread. I never bothered with my heart rate with my previous Garmin, as I couldn't be bothered to use the waist strap. With the 235, it records the hr from the wrist, so I automatically check it after each run.

I've never taken any notice of VO2 max until recently. Mine seems low compared with others on here. My usual reading is 48 saying "Superior, you are in the top 5% of your age group and sex." I'm presuming that the level is lower as we get older, but would appreciate it anyone could advise. I'm 72 but 73 in a weeks time.
Nov 2018
10:28am, 30 Nov 2018
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Gobi
runandtricoach.com

At 73 you are a fitness god with 48 as a VO2 max. This is the bottom of the scale for superior for someone age 40- 49

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Nov 2018
10:44am, 30 Nov 2018
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Garfield
Interesting...I've always wondered what Garmin uses to calculate the VO2 max. It's claiming mine is 41.
J2R
Nov 2018
10:55am, 30 Nov 2018
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J2R
What help is it to know one's VO2max? Genuine question.
Nov 2018
11:07am, 30 Nov 2018
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Cog Noscensme AHA
Good question J2R. It seems to me that it's of no help unless you can take some actions to change it. I'm interested to know if anyone has seen a programme of VO2max intervals make a difference to their reading. I've not conducted the experiment yet.
Nov 2018
11:09am, 30 Nov 2018
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Flatlander
J2R, the table at the bottom of this brianmac.co.uk may help.

The site also gives lots of other interesting tables - comparison between sports, between non athletes and athletes...........

I am pleased that my VO2Max of 50.1 determined by a hospital Cardio Pulmonary Exercise Test at the beginning of this year was well into the "superior" bracket - as it should be for most of us on here.
J2R
Nov 2018
11:18am, 30 Nov 2018
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J2R
Ah, OK, I can see it's needed if you're wanting to determine your exercise intensity as a percentage of VO2max, rather than HRmax. Makes sense. I already do this in a way, with vVO2max sessions where I run intervals at a pace which should be around 100% of my VO2max (typically the pace one can sustain for around 6 minutes), but I've never bothered to determine what that actual figure is. One of the calculators on the site puts me at 58, but I've never really trusted 'rule of thumb' calculators.
Nov 2018
11:19am, 30 Nov 2018
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Gobi
I improved mine on the bike with targeted training
Nov 2018
11:28am, 30 Nov 2018
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larkim
What's the view on the value of being properly measured for these physiological benchmarks (VO2Max, lactate threshold, HR zones etc)?

My VO2Max over the last couple of months as reported by my watch is in the range 57-60, which by the tables on the brianmac page would appear to be quite good, and in the context of being at the upper end of BMI (24 on a good day - according to the NHS for a 5ft8incher such as myself I should be in 55.4kg - 74.8kg, and I'm normally around 72 when training actively) I think allows me to a degree to compensate for carrying more mass than others.

It may be that Garmin's estimate is half decent, but if I try to use the calculators for VO2Max vs race times their estimates put my VO2Max in the range 53-54 so there's a decent discrepancy.
J2R
Nov 2018
12:07pm, 30 Nov 2018
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J2R
Interestingly, the value of 58 I got from one of the calculators on the brianmac site, which just used resting and max heart rates, is very close to the one I get from this one - brianmac.co.uk - which uses race performance, which gives me a little more confidence in the figure.

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Everything you need to know about training with a heart rate monitor. Remember the motto "I can maintain a fast pace over the race distance because I am an Endurance God". Mind the trap door....

Gobi lurks here, but for his advice you must first speak his name. Ask and you shall receive.

A quote:

"The area between the top of the aerobic threshold and anaerobic threshold is somewhat of a no mans land of fitness. It is a mix of aerobic and anaerobic states. For the amount of effort the athlete puts forth, not a whole lot of fitness is produced. It does not train the aerobic or anaerobic energy system to a high degree. This area does have its place in training; it is just not in base season. Unfortunately this area is where I find a lot of athletes spending the majority of their seasons, which retards aerobic development. The athletes heart rate shoots up to this zone with little power or speed being produced when it gets there." Matt Russ, US International Coach
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