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HappyG(rrr)
HappyG(rrr)
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The scenario I was trying to avoid (probably 10 years ago) was leaving a child and missus with a large mortgage and no savings when I had 20 years of earning potential still to milk. The boy is now 21 and the missus has me insured up to the hilt, so I think I can go base jumping now, if I want to. :-) G
larkim
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2:42pm, 11 Oct 2018
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Sounds like you need to watch out for your brake fluid leaking under your car HG ;-)
Flatlander
Flatlander
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2:43pm, 11 Oct 2018
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larkim,
If you're wearing a reliable HR monitor and you get very abnormal readings which you are sure are not due to interference, coupled with physical signs such as weakness, palpitations, thumping heart, shortness of breath, dizziness/light headedness, much harder effort than is usual for the conditions and pace, you should at the very least walk to the next marshal or preferably stop and rest and ascertain exactly how you feel. All those signs are indicative of a major heart problem. Unfortunately, they can also be due to other causes but given the possible severe outcome, they should not be ignored by continuing to run.

As for your specific question about what you might see on your HRM, it would be a large and/or erratic change in your HR, but that would most likely occur in conjunction with the other symptoms I mentioned above.

It would require extensive expensive testing (as indicated by oumaumau) to detect pre-existing conditions which might lead to SCD (which can be the result of different abnormalities), but the NHS is quite rightly not going to spends lots of time and money for that on seemingly healthy people .
HappyG(rrr)
HappyG(rrr)
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2:49pm, 11 Oct 2018
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Thanks for that info Flatlander. Is this also the case for Cardiomyopathy? i.e. would be v. hard to detect before, not related to general fitness or lack of fitness, diet or other lifestyle and no symptoms, until the catastrophic ones immediately before heart stopping would be detected? Thanks. :-) G
Gobi
Gobi
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2:57pm, 11 Oct 2018
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Every so often this thread is a good read. This has been an interesting couple of days
Flatlander
Flatlander
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:-) G

Cardiomyopathy tends to develop slowly, unless there is an insult (something that initiates a condition), so one would usually be aware of it before it becomes dangerous, although sometimes there are no symptoms. This may explain further nhs.uk and you may find the section "Hypertrophic cardiomyopathy" relevant to the discussions on recent pages on this thread.
SSLHP (Shoes smell like horse piss)
SSLHP (Shoes smell like horse piss)
Oct 2018
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The way I reflect on these tragic incidents is to consider how many people might have had a cardiac arrest just sitting on the sofa on that day. I bet it was more than two.
SSLHP (Shoes smell like horse piss)
SSLHP (Shoes smell like horse piss)
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...and it would never hit the news: "Five people died to day doing absolutely nothing!"
Gobi
Gobi
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LOL, I probably shouldn't laugh but yes people dying randomly of Natural causes is not news
The_Saint
The_Saint
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3:20pm, 11 Oct 2018
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To do the Paris Marathon as I have done 3 times, you need to get a GP's stamp that they have checked you out, a local elite runner who is also a GP used to do mine - he used to say the same things every time - "With what you do if you had a problem you would be dead already" and "You are in perfect health, but I give no guarantees".
I took part in a study at Cardiff Met the year before last and was hooked up to an ECG three times during exercise and stress tests, each time an expert was present to assess my readings, other than commenting on my low resting HR, they didn't say anything which I am taking as they didn't spot anything. I was told that it is typically £1000 to have this done once which tends to make you think that there really isn't any realistic way of screening everyone and even if there was, would the tests pick up an issue?

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Everything you need to know about training with a heart rate monitor. Remember the motto "I can maintain a fast pace over the race distance because I am an Endurance God". Mind the trap door....

Gobi lurks here, but for his advice you must first speak his name. Ask and you shall receive.

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"The area between the top of the aerobic threshold and anaerobic threshold is somewhat of a no mans land of fitness. It is a mix of aerobic and anaerobic states. For the amount of effort the athlete puts forth, not a whole lot of fitness is produced. It does not train the aerobic or anaerobic energy system to a high degree. This area does have its place in training; it is just not in base season. Unfortunately this area is where I find a lot of athletes spending the majority of their seasons, which retards aerobic development. The athletes heart rate shoots up to this zone with little power or speed being produced when it gets there." Matt Russ, US International Coach
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