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Chrisull Jul 2018 2:50pm, 4 Jul 2018 12,975 posts	Quote Pin Chrisull HappyG - good info, seems like a complete lottery as to whether it might work well for any arbitrary person or not.
puzzler Jul 2018 8:35pm, 4 Jul 2018 828 posts	Quote Pin puzzler I’m another one who has reverted to chest strap. I’ve used a couple of types of ohr and as long as I am happy with rough approximation then it’s fine but if I want accuracy I go for chest strap.
Andrew65- Cmon England! Jul 2018 12:00am, 5 Jul 2018 886 posts	Quote Pin Andrew65- Cmon England! I think that it is a matter of preference. On long runs, I find the chest strap uncomfortable. The difference in readings between OHRM and Chest strap is never more than 5bpm, which is insignificant. So, for me, they are giving me the same information and I will go for the more comfortable option when needed. However, some people have reported huge variations between the two (>20 bpm) which obviously is significant.
Chrisull Jul 2018 2:28pm, 5 Jul 2018 12,982 posts	Quote Pin Chrisull So HRV and Garmin products, as I was looking for some HRV monitoring... I spotted this on the Garmin site: "HRV is not available for analysis by the end consumer using Garmin Products. With the addition of devices supporting the Connect IQ feature this information may be available from a third party application. Visit the Connect IQ Store to see if your device supports the Connect IQ feature." support.garmin.com although then I spotted this (for the Fenix 5 and Forerunner 935) - ie the £400+ ones: firstbeat.com As a Vivoactive user, does anyone know of any 3rd party apps to monitor HRV. Apparently there used to be for Vivoactive 3, that crashed some where at the beginning of this year... forums.garmin.com Any others people know of? (widgets etc)
GlennR Jul 2018 2:38pm, 5 Jul 2018 36,437 posts	Quote Pin GlennR Thanks Chrisull, I've just added that to my 935.
Chrisull Jul 2018 3:02pm, 5 Jul 2018 12,983 posts	Quote Pin Chrisull Let us know how it goes Glenn, I've seen some people say it's "a random number generator" but then another blog showing how it showed during his wife influenza attack that it really showed the impact of the illness. I think in answer to my last question, it's only available with the Garmins that have optical heart rate monitoring. I have been coveting the Vivoactive 3 for a while, and it's nearly my birthday.
HappyG(rrr) Jul 2018 3:09pm, 5 Jul 2018 28,908 posts	Quote Pin HappyG(rrr) The Vivoactive 3 has a "stress measure" app/widget built in. I have no idea what it would be telling me. Is that using HRV? Anyhoo, more fundamentally if my VA3 isn't recording my HR properly (as Andrew says + or - 20 or more BPM - usually +! ) then HRV is moot! G
larkim Jul 2018 3:10pm, 5 Jul 2018 5,193 posts	Quote Pin larkim Having a bluetooth / Ant+ HRM combined means I can use things like Elite HRV with my existing strap if I fancy it. Optical I can see being beneficial as either sleeping in the chest strap HRM or waking up and putting it on is a bit of a faff. Providing you get good data from it. I've only tried logging HRV a couple of times (which defeats the object), got 66/68 readings from Elite. Didn't know whether that was objectively "good" or "bad", though immediately assumed high was "bad". Maybe I'll try to do some more monitoring.
StuH Jul 2018 3:13pm, 5 Jul 2018 2,361 posts	Quote Pin StuH I may be wrong, but I thought only straps could measure HRV.
HappyG(rrr) Jul 2018 3:29pm, 5 Jul 2018 28,909 posts	Quote Pin HappyG(rrr) Chrisull - off topic but Vivoactive 3 Garmin Pay only works if you have a Santander debit / credit card. No other UK bank at the mo (annoyingly, cos I wanted to buy my juice / water / recovery drink) with my watch! G

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Everything you need to know about training with a heart rate monitor. Remember the motto "I can maintain a fast pace over the race distance because I am an Endurance God". Mind the trap door....

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"The area between the top of the aerobic threshold and anaerobic threshold is somewhat of a no mans land of fitness. It is a mix of aerobic and anaerobic states. For the amount of effort the athlete puts forth, not a whole lot of fitness is produced. It does not train the aerobic or anaerobic energy system to a high degree. This area does have its place in training; it is just not in base season. Unfortunately this area is where I find a lot of athletes spending the majority of their seasons, which retards aerobic development. The athletes heart rate shoots up to this zone with little power or speed being produced when it gets there." Matt Russ, US International Coach

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