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Oct 2011
7:38am, 1 Oct 2011
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Ulric
Very interesting topic. But my b/mile doesn't seem to differ that much between steady aerobic training runs and races (3km-10km). Maybe its slighly lower in races but only just. I've got some hrm splits from a 3000m track tt and (ignoring the first lap where hr was still climbing) the laps ranged from 261 beats for the fastest to 285 near the end where I had lost concentration and the pace had slipped. This is from a Polar RS800 set to record every hearbeat so you can get fully accurate beat counts for each lap.
Oct 2011
8:14am, 1 Oct 2011
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paul the builder
That's still 10%, though. Just seems smaller on a per lap basis.

Mine varies within the range 1000 to 1100, seeing the lower numbers for tempo and MP.
Oct 2011
6:32pm, 3 Oct 2011
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jiminy cricket
Having been following this thread for some time but not felt moved to contribute before now. Am a reluctant runner trying to become more focused. HAve Parker's book (which I've read) and now intend to start the s l o w running process.

In connection with use of HR figures, I compare ave HR over a run against time taken to give a figure showing yardage (or meterage) per heart beat. OK, it's geeky but it seems to deliver a number comparative to "miles per gallon". Certainly over time it clearly shows change in performance as fitness improves. After missing several months due to ill health I knew from the stats that I'd lost somce 15% against previous levels. Since then the stats provide an objective figure showing current performance now less than 10% against previous best.

I'll now sit back and await the abuse ....
Oct 2011
6:39pm, 3 Oct 2011
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Keefy Beefy
I really don't analyse much beyond looking at the average pace after. If it's faster than most I deem it a good thing.

Hola, JC.
Oct 2011
4:28pm, 12 Oct 2011
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Westley
Here's one to chew on. I did a HR max test some weeks ago that elicited a max of 185. Last week I completed a 202 mile twelve man relay. This involved me running three runs totalling sixteen miles over a twenty-two hour period; my first leg started at 8am on Friday and the last finished at 4.30am on Saturday, with no sleep on Friday night and only three hours on Thursday night. I ran the third and final leg at HM pace and recorded a max HR during this run of 190 during the latter half of the first mile, that coincided with a short stretch at sub 6min/mi pace. Does sleep deprivation have that kind of affect on HR or did my HRM behave erratically? If the former, then maybe I have stumbled onto a new approach to a max HR testing. ;-) It also means I need to readjust my training pace.
Oct 2011
4:35pm, 12 Oct 2011
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Gobi
does it look like a glitch on the graph, I would be worried if Half marathon pace pushed my HR above max .

Sleep deprivation is more likely to surpress HR not raise it
Oct 2011
4:36pm, 12 Oct 2011
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icemaiden
How did it feel Westley - max HR is, in my opinion, shortly before you die or vom or both. I would expect a HR to be different between different runs and in stressful conditions over one day period. And as this was in the first mile is most likely an artefact of either the HRM or the course where the satelites got lost.
Oct 2011
4:43pm, 12 Oct 2011
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paul the builder
Show us the graph!!!

Good use of "elicited" too.
Oct 2011
4:49pm, 12 Oct 2011
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Westley
Gobi, not especially. the HR rapidly ascended into the 180s after the first fifth of a mile. However, you're right about sleep deprivation and HR so I am thinking it might be the HRM behaving erratically in the first mile. If I recall correctly I did not dampen the contacts before that leg.

Ice maiden, at the time I was moving too fast, nearer 10k or even 5k pace and I remember looking at the Garmin average pace function and thinking 'crikey, slow down!', but I definitely did not feel like I was running at max 'eyes out' pace.
Oct 2011
4:58pm, 12 Oct 2011
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Westley
FYI PtB. You should see the graph here.

connect.garmin.com

About This Thread

Maintained by Elderberry
Everything you need to know about training with a heart rate monitor. Remember the motto "I can maintain a fast pace over the race distance because I am an Endurance God". Mind the trap door....

Gobi lurks here, but for his advice you must first speak his name. Ask and you shall receive.

A quote:

"The area between the top of the aerobic threshold and anaerobic threshold is somewhat of a no mans land of fitness. It is a mix of aerobic and anaerobic states. For the amount of effort the athlete puts forth, not a whole lot of fitness is produced. It does not train the aerobic or anaerobic energy system to a high degree. This area does have its place in training; it is just not in base season. Unfortunately this area is where I find a lot of athletes spending the majority of their seasons, which retards aerobic development. The athletes heart rate shoots up to this zone with little power or speed being produced when it gets there." Matt Russ, US International Coach

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