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Jun 2009
9:57pm, 14 Jun 2009
24,538 posts
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Hendo
On a bike! 
NICE
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Jun 2009
10:21pm, 14 Jun 2009
7,428 posts
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G,
Congrats
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Jun 2009
10:39pm, 14 Jun 2009
28,969 posts
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Gobi
stunned really but have checked the graphs etc and it is on the sprint finish after an hours racing.
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Jun 2009
8:27am, 15 Jun 2009
5,499 posts
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hellen
dave, my paces for a certain HR during a marathon bear no resemblance to my training paces for that HR. Before a marathon I often do a 4 mile run at MP. My HR will be low 160s. In a marathon I run at that pace and my HR for the first 4 miles will be low 170s which low 80s%. My HR for the whole of a marathon will be mid 80s%.
If I tried to go sub 70% for a marathon I would be walking - 70% is 150 for me. At the start line whilst stoood standing my HR was in the 120s!!!!
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Jun 2009
8:34am, 15 Jun 2009
28,974 posts
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Gobi
Hellen
running 80% + in a marathon is fine as long as you are in control.
I know people who have heart rates 10 beats faster just thinking about the race so are always slightly elevated at the start but it calms and they just get on with the race.
I have run a marathon at 86% WHR
G
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Jun 2009
8:35am, 15 Jun 2009
5,500 posts
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hellen
ABo was my best run marathon at somewhere around 85%, I only faded in the last 2 miles and was 'in control' for the rest of it
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Jun 2009
8:36am, 15 Jun 2009
5,501 posts
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hellen
just checked - abo was 88%!!!
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Jun 2009
8:41am, 15 Jun 2009
28,975 posts
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Gobi
I would conclude from that that improving overall aerobic fitness will be your best bet so you can run faster at 88%
:¬)
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Jun 2009
8:58am, 15 Jun 2009
179 posts
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thechunkygentleman
Have no need to add intensity for just now Huff. My fitness is still improving through low itensity running and given the lack of anything broken i dont see any need to try and fix things. Impossible to say for absolutely certain whether i would have benefitted more from higher intensity running but given that i am making massive gains without doing that and i am doing so completely free from injury and whilst enjoying my running more than ever i frankly dont give a monkey's about trying to find out.
In just over a year i have started pretty much from scratch in terms of my fitness. I did hee haw before and for me its absoloutely all about aerobic base just now and will be for a number of months still. Not everyone is an experienced athelete who needs sharpening.
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Jun 2009
9:09am, 15 Jun 2009
7,957 posts
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Totally agree with the enjoyment aspect aspect tcg. I'm glad I used the hrm when I 1st started (running mainly at around 70% whr) - if I hadn't I'm sure I'd have overdone it, got injured and fed up with the running. I have tried adding structured "intensity" (notably intervals) - didn't work with me - I'll be going back to the hrm from now on and running with how I feel - I'll put more effort in the hills/do a section of a run at tempo pace/increase pace between features on the run etc as and when I feel.
Interesting reading various comments re using a hrm during a marathon. The only time I've tried to run off hrm (75-80% whr) I binned the plan after 7miles and ran with how I felt - ended up ave 85%whr. A month later and a hillier marathon, ave h/r was 78%whr. I've not been 100% in my last two marathons - posted my slowest time and highest ave hr (87%)
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