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Feb 2009
6:09pm, 18 Feb 2009
17,687 posts
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What I have said is that you dont have to treat these things as complete black and white so the 70% thing is a must not cross line at all times. It all depends on what method yu use etc.
I get a bit exasperated cos I posted loads earlier thinking it explained things....
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Feb 2009
6:11pm, 18 Feb 2009
17,688 posts
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I'll just shurrup, I think BAW might have meant me. Sorry if I have appeared to be preaching or upsetting folk. Was not my intention...
Bye for now... Birthday meal awaits...
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Feb 2009
6:15pm, 18 Feb 2009
2,055 posts
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Lizzie W
Birthday???
Ian's big post on page 1113 is reassuring to a simple soul like me 
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Feb 2009
6:17pm, 18 Feb 2009
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eL Bee!
Lizzie - I think you are not the only person that reads, inwardly digests, but doesn't necessarily post
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Feb 2009
6:17pm, 18 Feb 2009
2,056 posts
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Lizzie W
*21 lurkers*
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Feb 2009
6:25pm, 18 Feb 2009
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RooA
I don't think BAW meant you at all, Ian.
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Feb 2009
6:32pm, 18 Feb 2009
11,717 posts
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RooA
Right, I'm off in a moment (should be out the door already actually, oops) BUT this is what I know.
Parker method: Grey Zone between 70% and 85% don't go in it. Some flexibility to this, great, but better if you stay under 70%... This has given me this:
HR% - Av. Pace
Earliest
84 – 9:22
70 – 12:05
73 – 11:03
69 – 14:09
71 – 11:34
70 – 12:37
75 – 12:30
69 – 13:19
69 – 13:10
69 – 11:56
71 – 13:34
70 – 11:54
69 – 13:53
69 – 12:47
69 – 12:34
67 – 14:14
69 – 13:52
Latest.
Which is not making me very happy. I'm not getting stressed about pace out on runs BUT I am feeling like I'm running almost uncomfortably slow a lot of the time. And the av pace for my runs is not shifting anywhere fast.
So I'm going to have one pace run tomorrow and see what my HR does, as an experiment.
I think I have been listening to what I have been told and doing my very best to act on it. But it's so frustrating
That's all I know.
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Feb 2009
6:32pm, 18 Feb 2009
6,136 posts
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Velociraptor
[Delurk]
I am delighted to read the last couple of pages. Is this really the same thread on which, less than two years ago, I was advised that one of my training runs had been rendered completely useless by my having let my WHR drift up over 70% for a few seconds going over a steep hill even though the average WHR for the entire run was well under 70%?
70%WHR, for me, is just a number. It's a good aerobic training heart rate for a lot of people, but biological variation means it won't work for everyone. My "number" is likely to be somewhere between 76% and 79%, with a correspondingly higher floor for hard sessions.
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Feb 2009
6:33pm, 18 Feb 2009
11,718 posts
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RooA
I think I might have a reptillian heart.
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Feb 2009
6:57pm, 18 Feb 2009
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Fenland Runner
V'Rap - but, but, what about the other side of the coin. If you've been good and kept to the max target during the ascent, when the descent how do you keep the HR up. I find that even on a fenland incline (bliddy flat to anybody else) the HR can drop by up to 10bpm during descent.
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