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Feb 2009
11:32am, 18 Feb 2009
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Girlie
I had better leave the thread again then, as most of my general runs are at 150bpm, which is always just over the 70% line. I usually try not to let it drift over 155bpm which is around 75%
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Feb 2009
11:32am, 18 Feb 2009
595 posts
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jacko
ian m
i bow to your superior knowledge
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Feb 2009
11:34am, 18 Feb 2009
1,030 posts
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Mykey
Parker talks about the 70% WHR limit. I understand this to be a "speed" limit ie the max HR for a run and not just the average. In theory you could achieve a 70%WHR average you could have been running intervals with walking/sitting/sleeping(!) recovery periods. Would this be an easy run?
An average of 72% implies that some (at least half) of the run was higher than 72% so getting deeper into the "grey zone" that the quote at the top of the page talks about.
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Feb 2009
11:35am, 18 Feb 2009
968 posts
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Tinytia
Don't leave the thread Girlie!! I remember how you tried avidly to stick to below 70% runs in the past and it eventually took the enjoyment (for you) out of the running, stick with what's working (for you) 
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Feb 2009
11:38am, 18 Feb 2009
596 posts
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jacko
does it not depend on what formula you used to work out your max heart rate you could get slightly different rates so 2% seems to be negliable .
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Feb 2009
11:38am, 18 Feb 2009
2,044 posts
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Lizzie W
Girlie - just a thought - have you rechecked your resting & max? Maybe your 72% is really your 70!
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Feb 2009
11:39am, 18 Feb 2009
2,045 posts
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Lizzie W
IanM - I got my max from a dizzy-at-the-end undulating 5K - is that good enough, or do I need to do that hill thing?
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Feb 2009
11:41am, 18 Feb 2009
17,675 posts
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Mykey, the average actually means running every mile within that average otherwise it doesn't make actual sense.
For example I ran ten miles on Saturday three of which were 6:12 mins per mile. The whole run still averaged 69% WHR. Despite this I would not call that a low heart rate or Recovery Ceiling run...
A reminder too that 70% is the absolute maximum and is probably way too hard for most folk.
Using Hadd, Maffetone or Parker I think you would probably find that easy runs will be roughly the same - low heart rate and easy.
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Feb 2009
11:43am, 18 Feb 2009
17,676 posts
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Lizzie, depends on how hard you pushed. If you got to the point where you felt like you could not run any more and you still ran another 200 metres fast then you could have reached your max. It feels very hard and uncomfortable when you get there.
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Feb 2009
11:45am, 18 Feb 2009
2,197 posts
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CanaryYellow
I managed a 70% HR doing intervals and a 71% doing fartleks, the overall pace of the runs was way faster than what i can do for a normal 70% run.
Might have guessed it doesnt count.
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