Grammar pedants - help please.
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Dec 2022
8:55pm, 15 Dec 2022
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Nord SledRunner 🛷
I suppose that's the difference between grammar and what people imagine the intention is.
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Dec 2022
9:20pm, 15 Dec 2022
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Badger
Columba let me assure you I was only pointing out the examples and not the needlessly lurid alliteration!
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Dec 2022
10:09pm, 18 Dec 2022
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Columba
Badger Yes, I did realise that!
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Feb 2023
2:56pm, 20 Feb 2023
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ChrisHB
If an aircraft is "coming in to land", do you take "to land" to be an infinitive or a prepostion+noun? Is there any other example of using the verb "to come" like this? I think a sea-plane would still "come in to land", but I am sure that a boat comes into port. |
Feb 2023
3:06pm, 20 Feb 2023
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DeeGee
Coming in(to the immediate vicinity of the airport) in order to carry out the action known as "landing". "Land" as a verb rather than a noun. Thus allowing the possibility of a "landing" on water. Other examples would be "to come in to have a look round", or "to come in to cause trouble", maybe? |
Feb 2023
3:45pm, 20 Feb 2023
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ChrisHB
Well, 'coming in to have a look around' - surely that means you go through the door, so it very different from the plane. I can't think of an obvious example of 'coming in to cause trouble'. How about 'he came in to the office to cause trouble'? Here too he has entered the office before he causes trouble. But a train comes in to a station. It does not come in to stop, though it might come to a stop. So I am not convinced. |
Feb 2023
8:10pm, 20 Feb 2023
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Silent Runner
I think "coming in" there suggests approaching or incoming, rather than entering a particular space or area. I would definitely take "land" to be a verb in that phrase.
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Feb 2023
8:42pm, 20 Feb 2023
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RichHL
"Coming in" means "approaching" as Silent Runner said. Ships do "come in" to harbour in the same way. For some reason, I don't think cars "come in" to a garage or parking space.
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Feb 2023
8:50pm, 20 Feb 2023
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Badger
The closest parallel I can think of is "is Bill coming out to play?” Definitely a verb, and also a fairly rare formation. I think land is a verb.
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Feb 2023
8:51pm, 20 Feb 2023
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DeeGee
I've just rewatched "The Three Amigos". It's based in a small Mexican town called San Pedro. In that film, the three actors went in to stop the bandits, who kept coming in to terrorise the locals. |
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