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Jan 2017
7:44am, 5 Jan 2017
4,207 posts
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Hark the Helegant Angels Sing
Weigh in at SW last night.
I'm guessing it is because so many people had gained weight over Christmas, and there were many new members that the leader focused on the plan and how to implement it rather than going round highlighting people's gains and losses.
Much of the general advice suits me, but I have to zone out when they start talking about huge weight loss targets,
"Who doesn't want a huge weight loss really quickly?"
"Me. I find the thought of instant massive change quite terrifying."
... and ready-meals.
I'll observe and think for a little longer, but there seems to be a genuine need for education about nutrition and cooking advice.
I can't use the excuse that I'm overweight because I don't know what to eat or how to cook it, but a lot of people can, and I don't think they are lazy. The table of cookery books is lightened each week, but not as much as the stack of HiFi bars (I'm not sure what these are, but I gather they can be substituted for bread).
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Jan 2017
8:37am, 5 Jan 2017
14,392 posts
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LindsD
For the first time in about two years, OH has made bread 
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Jan 2017
8:57am, 5 Jan 2017
6,183 posts
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Jambomo
I think that's why I have generally avoided the likes of WeightWatchees, Slimmingworld etc they don't really seem to teach you about how to eat well, it's more focused on telling people what to eat to achieve a set outcome without much thought to nutrition or educating them as to why you eat what you eat.
I may be being unfair though, I have only tried Scottish Slimmers (which I found to be like that) others may be different.
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Jan 2017
9:18am, 5 Jan 2017
3,241 posts
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RevBarbaraG
One of the principles in the LCHF community, which is probably where I locate myself, is to eat real food, avoiding anything packaged or processed. I'm not a purist, I decided flavourful meals were more important than the injunction to make my own stock rather than using powder/cubes. But, for the most part, I buy, cook and eat fresh, whole foods.
A consequence of this approach is a new interest in cooking, and a delight in being inventive!
It's 6 months since I started this, and today I weigh in 3st 11lb lighter.
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Jan 2017
9:23am, 5 Jan 2017
2,007 posts
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Tomsmum
I looked into SW and decided a high carb diet is not for me but the thing that really stuck with me is how many people are in slimming clubs for YEARS yo yo ing around, which I do but don't pay for the privilege!
I was reading on the BBC site somewhere yesterday.. I think in the 'does Veganuary work?' article and a dietician was saying about people seeing donuts etc as food when they aren't, I think maybe a 'but is it food'? culture might be helpful..
My Dad has been referred by his Dr to WW, will see how he gets on.
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Jan 2017
9:48am, 5 Jan 2017
5,287 posts
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kwala
I too have yoyo-ed for years and am one of those who keeps going back to SW - I picture them rubbing their hands together and their eyeballs spinning round and ending up on £ signs when they see me coming back - kerchingggg!!!! (not sure it's specifically a high carb plan unless you choose the high carb options though).
Possibly if I'd left my body to itself without dieting over the years I would've plateau-ed out less than I am now, on the other hand, if I hadn't had the signifcant losses with slimming clubs over the years I could be 10 stone heavier than I am right now.
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Jan 2017
9:49am, 5 Jan 2017
6,184 posts
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Jambomo
To be fair I think it was other people that put me off slimming clubs. I used to work in a bank where there were three women who went to these clubs and were always talking about going to weigh in. They would talk about red days, green days where they ate certain things and it was all they talked about during the day. They would save up their points so they could go drinking every weekend. The thing was that they did this for well over a year and none of them appeared to lose any weight.
One woman would eat 5 boiled eggs at her desk for breakfast every morning - the office stank!
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Jan 2017
10:55am, 5 Jan 2017
3,243 posts
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RevBarbaraG
What put me off slimming clubs was the language of being "good" versus "naughty". My parents had already done a fantastic job of embedding the message that, whatever I may achieve academically, professionally or in other spheres of life, I was basically a failure because I'm fat.
Then there's what Jambomo mentioned about the bars and shakes going, not teaching/encouraging people to eat real food etc. When you make weight the sole focus, you miss the broader picture of health and wellbeing. It's similar with exercise - people take it up to help them lose weight.... and then sometimes give up when they don't lose much, if anything. Truth is that exercise makes a minimal contribution to weight loss in comparison with changing what you eat - but it is absolutely FANTASTIC for health and wellbeing.
As we know
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Jan 2017
11:19am, 5 Jan 2017
4,211 posts
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Hark the Helegant Angels Sing
I didn't mean to suggest that the SW leader asks people to eat ready meals, but a lot of those attending don't seem to know how to cook, or what to eat. There is a lot of talk about it being a lifestyle change and not a diet. And so far no-one has used good or bad to refer to food, which is a blessed relief to me because that sets my teeth on edge.
I don't eat high carb on SW, neither do I eat their bars or ready-meals. I prefer to cook meals from basic unprocessed ingredients - i.e. food.
My biggest issue has tended to be a lack of planning, in other words, life sometimes gets in the way, and other things have a higher priority than being food focussed/obsessed. SOo it isn;t that I don't know what suits my body, or how to make changes, it's more about motivation.
Since I posted there have been other comments moving the discussion on, and I'm glad to see we all agree that exercise is beneficial to health and wellbeing
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Jan 2017
11:28am, 5 Jan 2017
2,009 posts
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Tomsmum
It felt high carb to me as everyone spoke about bread and potatoes and pasta etc being free to eat 'ad lib'
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