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Nov 2018
11:00am, 8 Nov 2018
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Velociraptor
Disappointed. With no direct evidence whatsoever, I assume corruption.
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Nov 2018
11:06am, 8 Nov 2018
4,783 posts
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Northern Exile
A fair assumption.
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Nov 2018
11:09am, 8 Nov 2018
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um
The last time I was there (2017) there was a lot of activity at the top of Honister Pass - bulldozing rocks etc just off the car park - and a steady stream of buses to and from the centre and up the quarry road to the west (presumably to via ferrata?).
The quarries above Dubs looked recently worked - but no sign of activity on the day I was there.
The noise was blocked once up on the tramway, but on the return down Grey Knotts (with line of sight & sound) was very apparent - hence the pic
Do you know the planned zip line route? From NE of Dubs - or (more or less) Bell Crags back to the visitor center?
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Nov 2018
11:12am, 8 Nov 2018
39,540 posts
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Velociraptor
After the Thirlmere zip wire debacle, I became fairly resigned to this. The proposed Thirlmere plan was far worse.
I'm potentially quite in favour of the Whinlatter gondola plan.
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Nov 2018
11:18am, 8 Nov 2018
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Northern Exile
What do you think the positives of the Whinlatter gondola are V'rap? I'm just sitting here mulling it over and I suppose you could argue that seeing as there's already a developed visitor centre there, the gondola wouldn't add much to the impact.
It's one of those tricky situations. Cumbria needs to attract people/tourism in order to survive, so there has to be a degree of continued development. Personally, I just don't like the idea of anything scarring the fellside.
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Nov 2018
11:26am, 8 Nov 2018
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Velociraptor
If the gondola took mountain bikes, it would make the trails more appealing to people who don't like cycling uphill (I believe downhill-only mountain biking is an actual thing). It might also reduce the traffic burden on the road over the pass and allow another point of access next time floods/badgers/the impact of all the tree-cutting activity collapse the road on that side. And I don't think the gondola would particularly detract visually from what is already a very tourist-focused area.
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Nov 2018
11:37am, 8 Nov 2018
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♪♫ ♪♫ Synge ♪♫ ♪♫
Whinlatter, like Grizedale, is wooded and so there is less visual impact (presumably the gondola would go through breaks in the trees?). Also, trees generally have a dampening effect on sound.
I think a zip wire at the top of a pass would have a noticeable negative impact on views and quiet when on the surrounding fells.
NE - yes!
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Nov 2018
12:03pm, 8 Nov 2018
4,786 posts
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Northern Exile
Tim, I bow to your magnificent survey of the lake district 
My wife might like a little word with you though, she's been a bit miffed since I added the Synges to my "to do" list White Pike off Pillar was ticked off just the other day!! Surprised the Mr Birkett didn't include that one.
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Nov 2018
12:17pm, 8 Nov 2018
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♪♫ ♪♫ Synge ♪♫ ♪♫
NE - I think I should bow to you looking at your resume!
My survey was a bit of a hobby compilation long before the internet and I was surprised a few years ago to find a minor resurgence of interest in such places as hill-bagging.co.uk and to meet online a small but committed band of baggers/completers. Good for getting off the beaten track - glad you're enjoying it (with apologies to Mrs NE).
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Nov 2018
12:41pm, 8 Nov 2018
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flanker
getting back to the original question, disappointed! My first reaction was as per v'rap - wondering who'd been scratching whose back. Honister is a bit grim in places already, so the direct impact may be limited. My concern however is around wedges and thin ends. I assume the LDNP wore a different hat when it was trumpeting it's World Heritage status?
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