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cackleberry Feb 2021 9:45am, 25 Feb 2021 1,995 posts	Quote Pin cackleberry I really want to have some solo adventures, but need to start a bit smaller than a full on mountain wild camp! I realised I've never even run on the moor after dark on my own. I run in the dark all the time but always in company. I run on my own, but always in day light. We'll see what the summer holds...
rhb Feb 2021 10:32am, 25 Feb 2021 1,634 posts	Quote Pin rhb 40g weight penalty on the cheaper trowel though.
Homer Feb 2021 12:03pm, 25 Feb 2021 13,917 posts	Quote Pin Homer 40g could be the 40g that break you cackleberry - just go for it! I adore the feeling of sitting high on the hill in the spring/summer when everyone else has gone home, watching the sunset. It doesn't have to be a long walk. For your first time you could just trot up something small and not too steep, not too far from the car park and roll easily back to the car in the morning
Angus Clydesdale Feb 2021 1:16am, 26 Feb 2021 21,975 posts	Quote Pin Angus Clydesdale 40g?! Hahahahaha! 🤣🤣 Dafuq are you lot on about? Each turd you pass probably weighs more than that. Just get fitter and stronger.
Hanneke Feb 2021 2:13am, 26 Feb 2021 70,815 posts	Quote Pin Hanneke I have done a lot of lightweight wild camping. I started off doing mountain marathons, for which I bought a Laser Photon tent. 13 years later it is still going strong and has been around the world with me. I don't like getting bitten by insects and I do feel vulnerable as a woman on her own, so rather not be visible. I have a small-ish rucksack from Osprey, 30 litres, same vintage, has also been around the world with me. For me, the fact that I can carry a full cooking system with me in a small handlebar food pod on my bike, I mainly go bike packing theses days, makes it better and more special. The whole cooking stuff comes from alpkit. I have a tiny Ti burner, small canister, large and smaller ti mugs, ti bowl, spork, foldable, foldup chopsticks and a small cup for wine and coffee. I carry ground coffee and a filter with me too. It weighs nothing and this last year has made things a bit more civilised, being able to drum up a proper meal and or coffee somewhere where on is exercising, either alone or with a friend. Around here, there is nowhere where you can get any food or drink because of covid. I sleep cold, so I have down slerpung bags, but also the cloudbase quilt from Alpkit and because of a disability, i cannot sleep on the floor so I have a blowup mattress, also from alpkit. Alpkit also does a lightweight water filtering system. As i only carry a small canister, I prefer not to boil water for drinking. And no, I do not work for Alpkit but they do do good gear for reasonable prices.
jda Feb 2021 4:03am, 26 Feb 2021 9,521 posts	Quote Pin jda With dry food you can easily save the weight of a stove and have hot drinks too.
halfpint Feb 2021 7:48am, 26 Feb 2021 34,257 posts	Quote Pin halfpint I’ve done a couple of wild camps out in the hills with QP. I have plans to do some bike packing with a friend when we can. I’m reasonably happy with my tent although I need to get lighter pegs. I just bought an alpkit mat which packs down really small. I have a brukit which does the job for now. Next up is a decent sleeping bag. Current one is huge and inefficient.
Homer Feb 2021 8:29am, 26 Feb 2021 13,918 posts	Quote Pin Homer Quite right Angus...kinda fun though. I've gone through getting stronger and buying lighter. Thankfully as a bunch of uber-fit-Fetchie-runners we are all awesome in the hills already the big 3 of tent, sleeping bag and stove are worth getting lighter if you can. Never done a proper mountain marathons - they look hard!
rhb Feb 2021 11:23am, 26 Feb 2021 1,636 posts	Quote Pin rhb Whilst Fastpacking often involves Wildcamping, the 2 things can be very differently approached. The thread is titled to discuss both, so poo-pooing (geddit?!) any talk of lightweight kit seems to be at odds with the purpose of the thread. So, i'll bite on the trowel replies. My comment was flippant, but there is a fastpacking principle that it highlights to newcomers who may tune in at some point (Homer I appreciate you know this already). This is the marginal gains principle. When weight differences are applied to each bit of kit in the pack the extra weight compounds and can result in a couple of kilos or more to carry in the final pack. For a gentle day walk or short trot from carpark to camp and back this is probably no biggy. When covering longer distances at pace for a few days it starts to make a difference, regardless of an individuals fitness & strength base if they carry more weight this will make them more tired more quickly. There's a trade off for comfort & warmth and refueling. Each individual will find their happy place around this, often after a few cold & hungry nights which are always character building experiences. Anyway, here's a useful article on getting lightweight: lighterpack.com I've not done a lighterpack page, it would be a useful excercise though.
Rosehip Feb 2021 12:37pm, 26 Feb 2021 19,818 posts	Quote Pin Rosehip Dropping the weight from me will have more effect than the odd g here or there, but seems harder! Anything I've bought for car camping in the last couple of years, I've looked at the weight of, to avoid buying twice should I get the chance to hike-camp, it's not a cheap exercise. My teens seemed to manage DofEing OK with very heavy packs - but they didn't exactly move fast and I remember youth hosteling around the lakes and also along the south downs - carrying clean jeans, nice shoes and makeup! Think I was a lot tougher then.