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Apr 2023
9:28am, 19 Apr 2023
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Surelynot
I understand that the Cupra Born has the ID3/4 tech under the bonnet, if not the same trim as the VW.
Apr 2023
10:14am, 19 Apr 2023
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HappyG(rrr)
Cupra is easier to understand V1, V2 and V3 (trim) and 58 and 77kWh batteries. 77 is only available on V2 and V3. Mind you V1, 2 and 3 sounds like versions. Which it isn't! :-) G
Apr 2023
10:35am, 19 Apr 2023
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HappyG(rrr)
I was just reading some EV-hating on Facebook (good to get some balance to my EV-loving!) and apparently it is true that one Norwegian ferry line has banned EVs on its ferries due to fears of fire risk from EV batteries.

ctif.org

Seems a strange decision, but apparently is true. Just FYI if travelling in Norway and to its islands on the Havila ferry line. :-) G
Apr 2023
10:47am, 19 Apr 2023
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larkim
At work, we encountered some of that excessive caution as we have EVs that need to be stored (and potentially charged) indoors. Our insurers pointed to a ABI code of practice (I think) which was pretty risk averse, given I've not heard of any / many stories in the UK of fires being triggered by current gen EVs.
jda
Apr 2023
10:49am, 19 Apr 2023
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jda
It's an important factor to consider and a major black mark against EVs. After all, tanks of petrol have never caused fires.
Apr 2023
10:57am, 19 Apr 2023
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larkim
Lol, agreed!

Though in a spirit of balance, the incidence of laptop or phone batteries apparently spontaneously combusting due to some unseen flaw or issue is a little more common than a tank of petrol sparking into life.

Nonetheless, the risk of a battery fire does seem pretty low.
Apr 2023
10:59am, 19 Apr 2023
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HappyG(rrr)
That's why I said I thought it was a strange risk assessment.

However, lithium battery fires are apparently harder to put out than a petrol fire. That's just a fact, I'm afraid.

scitechdaily.com

So impact, greater? But likelihood, same or lower? Risk score could be higher? :-) G
jda
Apr 2023
11:07am, 19 Apr 2023
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jda
I know, I was joking. It is definitely an issue to be aware of, but not necessarily a complete show-stopper.

I've had trouble in the past at post offices when sending electronic goods (with batteries in, as they tend to) but they seem to have improved more recently. Or maybe I've not been sending such troublesome stuff :-)

(ebaying 2nd hand stuff like cameras was the main problem)
Apr 2023
11:38am, 19 Apr 2023
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MudMeanderer
This article suggests that part of the problem may be that we still don't know enough about L-I batteries, and there are cases of spontaneous combustion that we don't understand the reasons for, coupled with a potential for thermal runaway. iopscience.iop.org
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Apr 2023
1:06pm, 19 Apr 2023
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3M
Although in fairness you can get spontaneous combustion fires in damp laundry if it reaches critical (thermal) mass!

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Nattering about EVs; are you thinking about owning one? Do you own one? Are you terrified of owning one?

A thread for those with range anxiety, eco friendliness and petrol heads alike!

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Dobbers Tesla Model 3 LR (Dec 2020) 72kWh 290mile range

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HappyG Hyundai Kona 64kWh 240-280 miles range
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larkim MG4 SE LR 61.7kWh usable (64kWh advertised)
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