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Ally-C Aug 2023 3:53pm, 7 Aug 2023 3,896 posts	Quote Pin Ally-C I went with Fetch records from the last 365 days (with some caveats too): fetcheveryone.com/blog/3/2023/8/470884 This confirms how shit I am on a bike 😀
fetcheveryone Aug 2023 3:55pm, 7 Aug 2023 29,502 posts	Quote Pin fetcheveryone You are less shit than me
fetcheveryone Aug 2023 3:49pm, 8 Aug 2023 29,504 posts	Quote Pin fetcheveryone I've amended the formulae a little bit. The male and female record time values, t, were described by t=md+c, where d was the distance, and the values of m and c were calculated looking at the best times of all Fetchies during the last 365 days, and taking the best fit line. I've made two changes to my model: 1) I've ignored some of the longer times i.e. 100k+, and focused on the data from 10k up to 80k. 2) I've removed the 'c', as it makes sense that as 'd' gets close to zero, so does 't'. So both are now described more simply as t=md. For males, m=86.28; for females, m=99.22. This gives you a theoretical 'Fetch record' time e.g. for 50k: male time = 5086.28 = 4314 seconds = 71m54s. female time =5099.22 = 4961 seconds = 82m41s. The actual records I've found within the last 365 days are 70m19s and 82m41s. Once I've established the theoretical Fetch record for the distance you did, I adjust that for age, using curves for male and female athletes; and then compare your time to that adjusted figure. As per my blog yesterday, I excluded Rainbow Rider from the female data as she's a Paralympic silver medallist. If we had the mens equivalent of RR, then I would include both - but I am trying to produce FBI scores that offer a comparable reading between male and female athletes. Hopefully these changes will have made the scores a bit better.
MazH Aug 2023 10:23am, 9 Aug 2023 11,620 posts	Quote Pin MazH Did you exclude ebike rides?
MudMeanderer Aug 2023 12:24pm, 9 Aug 2023 2,455 posts	Quote Pin MudMeanderer Are you meaning to create the curves, Max? In which case it shouldn't matter, as the data defining the 100 score is well above the legal speed for e-bikes.
MazH Aug 2023 2:25pm, 9 Aug 2023 11,621 posts	Quote Pin MazH I know what you mean MM, Speaking as a 100% ebiker now, I assume my score is higher than it would be if I were conventional cycling.... I just think keeping them in probably has the capacity to falsely inflate the "average joe" data..... The orange place, excludes all ebike rides from Segment records, QOM, etc
fetcheveryone Aug 2023 2:44pm, 9 Aug 2023 29,505 posts	Quote Pin fetcheveryone All the fastest times used to build the curves were NOT assisted, nor virtual, nor shed-based in any way I do have a policy of excluding these in other places too - the exception being the virtual challenge, where anything is game. If there are any tables that look like they are overrun with unfair comparisons, do please report them.
AndyS Aug 2023 5:51pm, 15 Aug 2023 2,257 posts	Quote Pin AndyS If anyone fancies it, I see that entries are open for next year's RideLondon 100... ridelondon.co.uk I'm out, but mist consider the 60.
Oranj Oct 2023 4:22pm, 20 Oct 2023 3,878 posts	Quote Pin Oranj Although they are only a retailer and you can't get too sentimental about the current economic climate, sad news about Wiggle being in trouble. I've been shopping from them (and Chain Reaction Cycles) for longer than I care to remember. Their own brands DHB + Prime are great value, and they sponsored a pretty good women's cycling team for a number of years. Only this week I got a small order from them of a few things I needed across different sports that I might otherwise have had to buy from several different retailers.
Mandymoo Oct 2023 5:53pm, 20 Oct 2023 17,532 posts	Quote Pin Mandymoo I use wiggle a lot too and wear DHB clothing