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Oct 2016
10:18pm, 30 Oct 2016
14,812 posts
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The Teaboy
Bangladesh actually have the hottest new limited overs seamer in the world - Mustafizur - the Fizz. Was the star this year for Sunrisers Hyderabad in their IPL winning team. He was injured for this series though.
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Oct 2016
11:27am, 31 Oct 2016
8,403 posts
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Nicholls595
I had a terrible dream....
We were winning, then we had tea and a twister came and blew us away and....
We're not in Leeds anymore
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Oct 2016
11:34am, 31 Oct 2016
13,754 posts
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Atonal Miserabilist (AFKA TRO)
We flippin' murdered 'em 1-1.
Actually fancy us (a bit...) against India - this was Bangladesh's great chance, a series they have been waiting for, preparing for, really wanted to win more than anything. They did well, and caught us out second test.
India will not be quite the same, on paper better, but I still get the feeling they are like the England football team - far more interested in domestic league (IPL) than International test fixtures.
We have a shot, lessons hopefully will be learnt and Balance should be on a plane home which will make us stronger even if we bat Tufnell instead at 3......
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Oct 2016
11:36am, 31 Oct 2016
86,619 posts
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GregP
Atherton might not be everyone's cup of tea, but sometimes he's prepared to go out on a limb and think the unthinkable.
He seems to think [those of you of a nervous disposition had better sit down at this point] that there may be an argument for considering a re-evaluation of the validity of including persons other than Gary Ballance for the forthcoming series - even if this means that, in extremis, Mr Ballance himself might not play.
Fanciful stuff.
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Oct 2016
11:37am, 31 Oct 2016
86,620 posts
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GregP
TRO 13,754 is trememndous. And an interesting x-post with my summation of Mr Atherton's musings.
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Oct 2016
11:39am, 31 Oct 2016
13,755 posts
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Atonal Miserabilist (AFKA TRO)
Careful Greppers, Ballance is a Yorkshireman, they'll have your guts for.....pie filling or something....if you say anything bad....
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Oct 2016
11:57am, 31 Oct 2016
8,404 posts
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Nicholls595
This last series has demonstrated again the principle of momentum in cricket. Once a team starts to collapse, it seems impossible to halt the slide. Bearing this in mind, would we be better dropping Ballance and not replacing him with anyone?
The non existent batsman could not field at second slip when the ball is reversing.
And he could also not stop a single at mid off to the spinners.
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Oct 2016
12:16pm, 31 Oct 2016
21,644 posts
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HellsBells
I agree that Ballance should go, but one poor player does not a collapse make.
The worry is that in all the vitriol poured out against Ballance, they forget to look at what else went wrong
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Oct 2016
12:40pm, 31 Oct 2016
14,815 posts
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The Teaboy
It went wrong before the toss. Ansari for Batty was nuts. We had absolutely no control with the ball throughout unless Stokes/Woakes were bowling - and we had to not flog them into the ground. Bangladesh were going at 4-5 per over on a rank turner. At 170-1on day one the match was pretty much already gone - we spent the rest of the match playing catch-up, just about managed it at 100-0 in the 4th innings and then collapsed again. If there had been any semblance of control with the ball, we probably would have won it.
If Bangladesh's batsmen found scoring that easy against our spinners, imagine what Kohli and co will do. And Ashwin will have an absolute field day. India will want to avenge their series defeat from 4 years ago - I think they'll be focused.
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Oct 2016
12:43pm, 31 Oct 2016
86,621 posts
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GregP
Looking at the pure stats Mr Ballance is the star player in terms of negative contribution. Steven Finn could have been a contender if only he'd been given a chance to do bugger all in the first game. Stellar non-contribution in the second.
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