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Surrey Phil Jul 2023 2:26pm, 5 Jul 2023 9,527 posts	Quote Pin Surrey Phil I've always wondered how winning draws (4 pts) and losing draws (1 pt) worked. At least that's how they scored them around here. I suppose that would also encourage the team batting first to set up a declaration.
SPR Jul 2023 2:35pm, 5 Jul 2023 41,372 posts	Quote Pin SPR That list isn't quite right as the article says Bairstow is batting at 5, but he's listed at 6. Article didn't have that detail earlier as it breaking new. Interesting that Bairstow goes to 5 but makes sense as Stokes at 6 has a more flexible style for the situation changes.
paulcook Jul 2023 2:35pm, 5 Jul 2023 2,934 posts	Quote Pin paulcook Yes we had 4 points and 1 point (I'm talking 20-25 years ago now so might have changed). 6 points for a win (3 for a tie I presume) to give context. It was a little bit farcical in under 17s as with 20 overs you were never going to declare early, etc. But yes in the senior matches it theoretically added another dimension. That one point we got as above the other team scored the highest score against us that season I suspect and the one who could have very easily declared.
rf_fozzy Jul 2023 2:43pm, 5 Jul 2023 20,531 posts	Quote Pin rf_fozzy Winning and losing draws are very common in league cricket. Always a little strange because it was tactical that if you came against a really good team, you might put them in and try and get a losing draw. In the wetherby league, it also used to be a 90overs game (I think it might have reduced to 80 by the time I stopped playing). The team batting first had a max of 45 overs, but if you bowled the them out (or declared), then the team batting second gained the overs. We once played a game where the opposition really wasn't that interested in a long game, they scored really quickly but with lots of ugly slogging and we bowled them out in about 25overs for 140 or something, quite easily gettable, so they gave us 20overs on top of our usual 45. It took us something like 50 overs to get the runs, because they had a pretty decent spinner (and keeper stood up), we lost 3 or 4 quick wickets for not many, and one of our middle order was solid in defence, but could not hit the ball off the square or take any quick singles. Or singles. I remember batting with him in that game and early on, I'd always look to nudge it in a gap and take quick ones. He refused anything where there wasn't a comfortable two... Except for the 5th or 6th ball of the over when he'd find a big gap and walk a single. It was only mildly very frustrating. The bonus was we bored the opposition into submission (they were really bored and voiced it a lot) and won by 2 wickets or something. But in general, this meant for very very long days - in the middle of summer i think games didn't start until 1pm, meaning we often didn't finish until 8.30 or 9. I wanted the games to start at 10am. So you'd finish at about 6. Apparently this wasn't popular for some reason.
rf_fozzy Jul 2023 3:17pm, 5 Jul 2023 20,532 posts	Quote Pin rf_fozzy Apart from his bit on Mitchell starc's catch, I agree with this from McGrath. The Ashes 2023: Glenn McGrath says England have been too casual in series - bbc.co.uk
Cerrertonia Jul 2023 3:43pm, 5 Jul 2023 19,194 posts	Quote Pin Cerrertonia Just noticed Scotland don't actually need to win to go through now such is their advantage on run rate. It's hard to summarise what they need, but basically a not actually that close loss would still be good enough to go through. If Scotland bat first and get 250, then Netherlands would need to win with 6 overs to spare. If Netherlands bat first and score 250, Scotland would need to get to 219 in their 50 overs to go through.
phal Jul 2023 7:04pm, 5 Jul 2023 4,402 posts	Quote Pin phal Oh dear, ladies. Capsey out for 5, Heather Knight 0 - mini collapse by the looks of it - catching up after getting in from dog walk. Come on Danni!
phal Jul 2023 7:27pm, 5 Jul 2023 4,403 posts	Quote Pin phal They’re clawing it back….. 🤞🤞
SPR Jul 2023 7:36pm, 5 Jul 2023 41,383 posts	Quote Pin SPR Looks a good score just based on the total. Let's hope wickets in hand aren't a factor for Australia today
SPR Jul 2023 8:12pm, 5 Jul 2023 41,384 posts	Quote Pin SPR That wicket was needed.