Feb 2021
1:00pm, 6 Feb 2021
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Cheg
Interesting trott stat I found today. The most test runs without hitting a 6. 3,200 odd runs
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Feb 2021
1:49pm, 6 Feb 2021
2,578 posts
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Oscar the Grouch
ITB is not well remembered by the women or men folk from Taunton in the late 70s. I have first hand accounts (I am too young), that do not shed a good light. Different times indeed. Let's be generous and say boorish.
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Feb 2021
1:50pm, 6 Feb 2021
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Oscar the Grouch
(and he was my hero growing up along with a certain IVA so it hurts to write it)
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Feb 2021
2:07pm, 6 Feb 2021
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Cerrertonia
Botham was a childhood hero of mine, but there's no way he would be ahead of Flintoff or Stokes in the all-time England all-rounders list. Some great moments, but also long multi-year periods of pretty ordinary performances.
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Feb 2021
2:17pm, 6 Feb 2021
2,580 posts
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Oscar the Grouch
I think if you stuck to the years 1977-81, he'd be in ahead of peak Flintoff (2003-6?)
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Feb 2021
2:20pm, 6 Feb 2021
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GregP
Nicely put Cerra. Even at the time Willis was aheleas of him on my hero chart.
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Feb 2021
2:26pm, 6 Feb 2021
2,581 posts
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Oscar the Grouch
Was that for the daily 10 mile run or the Bob Dylan fandom, Greppers?
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Feb 2021
2:35pm, 6 Feb 2021
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Cerrertonia
Sibley deserves some credit. As an opener, he obviously mostly faces the new ball, yet he was out twice to leg-spin against Pakistan in the summer and out to spin in the first three innings in Sri Lanka, for a total of 6 runs. He's clearly been working on his technique - much more front foot now - 56no in the final innings in Sri Lanka (every ball against a spinner) and 87 in this game.
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Feb 2021
2:54pm, 6 Feb 2021
30,112 posts
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Ocelot Spleens
Gotham's bowling early years was terrific, far better than Stokes will ever get. Stokes will turn out to be a far better batsman. Botham edges the slip fielding, Stokes shells quite a few..
One Day, I suppose England winning gives Stokes a bit more than just a nod.
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Feb 2021
3:01pm, 6 Feb 2021
72,814 posts
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swittle
[Wasn't Both an 'also ran' in 'husband of the year', time and again? Allegedly.]
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