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Coronavirus **support** thread

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Jul 2020
8:31pm, 14 Jul 2020
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Mandymoo
Had this from my Dad who lives in Barcelona today

Covid returns. We have a major outbreak at Hospitalatet de Llobregat which is only 7.5 km away. Locals are expecting a return to lockdown.
Jul 2020
8:35pm, 14 Jul 2020
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Serendippily
Covered above Dave. I don’t think these new rules are about limiting risk per se but about limiting risk where it has minimum economic impact

Can’t open a restaurant with masks. So instead take numbers of one person per booking and have a 1m gap between tables

Can have shoppers with masks. Can’t track who else they meet. Can’t guarantee internet shopping for vulnerable. So mandate masks
Jul 2020
8:40pm, 14 Jul 2020
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Dvorak
Because when you try and drink a beer with a mask on, most of it goes down your front.

Unless you get something like this thepatent.news

Also, you will (it is expected) be pretty much in one place in a pub, thus mingling with far fewer people. The pub I usually visit is reopening tomorrow, I wish them well, but don't think I'll be visiting for a bit yet, even though I'm pretty sure that Donna, mein host, will be going above and beyond what's required. I am lucky enough to have access to a really nice beer garden, handily located, and a bit cheaper.
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8:41pm, 14 Jul 2020
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Dvorak
Hospitalet - where the airport is :-/
Jul 2020
8:44pm, 14 Jul 2020
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Dave W
Sorry S, must have missed it.

So, it's not being led by science now. But economics.

I can sympathise with these decisions somewhat, but I do think that a lot of this is political posturing.

Oh, and it's another U-turn. As is the Huawei decision. Good job we've got our sovereignty back, otherwise people may think that they've bowed to pressure from the good old U S of A.

Are these lot credible in any way shape or form?
Jul 2020
8:45pm, 14 Jul 2020
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Bob!
Hospitalet is nearer the centre.
Airport is at El prat de Llobregat
Jul 2020
8:47pm, 14 Jul 2020
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Dave W
Sorry, wrong thread. Strayed into Politics a bit (a lot).

My bad.
JR
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8:55pm, 14 Jul 2020
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JR
Is that outbreak a rise in positive tests (as more tests done) or actually a rise in people getting ill - clearly two very different scenarios.

Are we forever more going to be locking people down until a vaccine which may or may not work is found so people feel ‘safe’ Welcome to mass unemployment, poverty, worldwide depression, suicide, mass unemployment. The treatment for CV19 is increasingly looking worse than the actual disease.
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8:58pm, 14 Jul 2020
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Enjoyed that Dvorak
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10:32pm, 14 Jul 2020
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Tim of Fife
Than must never be another generalised lockdown. It would be catastrophic

About This Thread

Maintained by DocM
PLEASE NOTE
There is a separate discussion thread for debating the grander scheme of things here: fetcheveryone.com/forum/coronavirus-discussion-thread-61609

Go there if you want to talk about whether it's real, whether the government are trying to control us, etc, etc.

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information, discussion and support about the unfolding Covid-19 outbreak
NO politics please
And above all please be kind and respect others points of view and concerns.

microbiologists view byFlatlander
Science of coronavirus
fetcheveryone.com/blog/37839/2020/3#blog403867
coronavirus testing by Flatlander
fetcheveryone.com/blog/37839/2020/4#blog405255

information for ashtma sufferers
asthma.org.uk

information for pregnancy
rcog.org.uk

imperial article
imperial.ac.uk
imperial.ac.uk

Government advice gov.uk

advice for those with RA and autoinmmune diseases
nras.org.uk

diabetes advice
diabetes.org.uk

explaination of the maths of the growth of the epidemic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kas0tIxDvrg&fbclid=IwAR3exg0rG_Bz3gPqjXY3rcFajqVSk-cOK5lQGVkYcuzoMOdNEp7VTgH-Kac&app=desktop


tips to help you cope
drive.google.com

Advice to stay at home
assets.publishing.service.gov.uk

planning for and what to do if you are ill
covid-at-home.info
support for self isolates
nhsvolunteerresponders.org.uk

Ft coronavirus tracker
ft.com

A good article about dealing with the feelings of grief that the current situation has given us hbr.org

advice on self isolation for indivuals with symptoms or and their household
gov.uk

seven day rolling averages
ourworldindata.org

A sustainable exit strategy document
institute.global

susceptibility to covid by flatlander
fetcheveryone.com/blog/37839/2020/5#blog406151

bromage article
erinbromage.com

government guidelines 11th may for England(NI, Scotland and Wales linked at the bottom of article)
gov.uk

breathing practice
physiotherapyforbpd.org.uk

lancet articles
thelancet.com

help with mask anxiety
psychologytoday.com

tracker
travellingtabby.com
theguardian.com
video of droplet dispersal
https://youtu.be/DNeYfUTA11s
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