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Diogenes
Diogenes
Nov 2024
6:17am, 27 Nov 2024
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Diogenes
The Satsuma Complex? Mind you, oranges are not the only fruit.
McGoohan
McGoohan
Nov 2024
7:28am, 27 Nov 2024
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McGoohan
The Grapefruit of Wrath?
A Tale of Two Citrons?
anything by Lemony Snicket?
westmoors
westmoors
Nov 2024
9:43am, 27 Nov 2024
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westmoors
I'm happy to choose.

Did think about my current read, If On A Winter's Night A Traveller by Italo Calvino, but not sure I should subject you all to it!

I have two other options, both seasonal. One is a short story (70 pages), the other a psychological drama (224 pages). Any preferences?
McGoohan
McGoohan
Nov 2024
9:51am, 27 Nov 2024
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(IOAWNAT is a suuuuuuperb book. I would have no objections. Also it has 'Winter' in the title. That's a bit Christmassy, innit? ;-) )
LindsD
LindsD
Nov 2024
10:10am, 27 Nov 2024
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LindsD
Translated by....?
McGoohan
McGoohan
Nov 2024
10:18am, 27 Nov 2024
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McGoohan
[Very likely to be William Weaver - it was he in my edition - who was a very fine translator of Italian authors. He was the main translator of Calvino and Umberto Eco as well as many others.

He said this of his work on Calvino:

"Translating Calvino is an aural exercise as well as a verbal one. It is not a process of turning this Italian noun into that English one, but rather of pursuing a cadence, a rhythm—sometimes regular, sometimes wilfully jagged—and trying to catch it, while, like a Wagner villain, it may squirm and change shape in your hands." ]
westmoors
westmoors
Nov 2024
10:53am, 27 Nov 2024
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westmoors
Sorry Linds. McG is correct, translated by William Weaver.
LindsD
LindsD
Nov 2024
11:07am, 27 Nov 2024
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LindsD
Thank you :)
LindsD
LindsD
Nov 2024
11:07am, 27 Nov 2024
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LindsD
Nice description of translation
Chrisull
Chrisull
Nov 2024
12:10pm, 28 Nov 2024
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Chrisull
Yeah I'm coming more and more to see how important the translators interpretation is.

Now even with my schoolboy French (probably AS level at best) I can see this lovely old French poem "Le cimetière marin" paired next to an abysmal translation by Cecil Day Lewis, which loses all of its rhythmic splendour.

https://www.babelmatrix.org/works/fr/Val%C3%A9ry,_Paul-1871/Le_cimeti%C3%A8re_marin/en/62005-The_Graveyard_By_The_Sea

It's technically correct, but it's like getting my dog to play drums or something.

"Between the pines, the tombs, throbs visibly."

I'd like to think I could do a better job than that. (well I'm sure I could).

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January 2025 (Maclennane)
I'm Starting To Worry About This Black Box Of Doom (Jason Pargin)
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Mind of Winter (Laura Kasischke)
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Appliance (J O Morgan)
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