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Polarized training

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Although injury risk is very different in rowing compared to running.
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I have done lots of easy training over the years and still am mostly running easy whilst not competing. But I do think any training that relies on a bulk of easy miles should have a starting distance. So for instance I think Maff really does work if you have the patience, but there’s no point doing it on less than 40 miles per week. A bit like with Hadd, who said get to 50 miles per week and the start following his plan. And I reckon polarised is the same if you want to see real improvements and not just run consistently avoiding injury.

If not, you may as well do as @larkim did and just run, pretty quickly and come back out of breath.
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At “our level” (lumping us all in as non-elites although I realise there’s a huge range here) it’s pretty basic: overload a bit but not too much.

If you want to run faster you probably want to cut distance. If you want to run longer you probably ought to cut intensity back.

Combine the hose two in proportions that work for you. Rinse and repeat.
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My entire ultra distance career was built on the house of Z2 or RUN hard

Safe to say I ran a LOT
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If you do lots of training, at mixed paces, and avoid injury or overtraining burnout, you will become a faster runner. For me, it's all about that - doing whatever it takes to maximise training without creating setbacks for yourself. And there are no doubt plenty of ways of doing this. The 80/20 training ticks this box well, probably better than most other systems, for runners who are doing LOTS of miles, which the elites need to do.

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Polarised training is a form of training that places emphasis on the two extremes of intensity. There is a large amount of low intensity training (comfortably below lactate threshold) and an appreciable minority of high intensity training (above LT).

Polarised training does also include some training near lactate threshold, but the amount of threshold training is modest, in contrast to the relatively high proportion of threshold running that is popular among some recreational runners.

Polarised training is not new. It has been used for many years by many elites and some recreational runners. However, it has attracted great interest in recent years for two reasons.

First, detailed reviews of the training of many elite endurance athletes confirms that they employ a polarised approach (typically 80% low intensity, 10% threshold and 10% high intensity. )

Secondly, several scientific studies have demonstrated that for well trained athletes who have reached a plateau of performance, polarised training produces greater gains in fitness and performance, than other forms of training such as threshold training on the one hand, or high volume, low intensity training on the other.

Much of the this evidence was reviewed by Stephen Seiler in a lecture delivered in Paris in 2013 .
vimeo.com

In case you cannot access that lecture by Seiler in 2013, here is a link to his more recent TED talk.

ted.com
This has less technical detail than his 2013 talk, but is nonetheless a very good introduction to the topic. It should be noted that from the historical perspective, Seiler shows a US bias.

Here is another useful video by Stephen Seiler in which he discusses the question of the optimum intensity and duration of low intensity sessions. Although the answer ‘depends on circumstances’ he proposes that a low intensity session should be long enough to reach the point where there are detectable indications of rising stress (either the beginning of upwards drift of HR or increased in perceived effort). If longer than this, there is increasing risk of damaging effects. A session shorter than this might not be enough to produce enough stress to achieve a useful training effect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GXc474Hu5U


The coach who probably deserves the greatest credit for emphasis on the value of low intensity training was Arthur Lydiard, who coached some of the great New Zealanders in the 1960's and Scandinavians in the 1970’s. One of his catch-phrases was 'train, don't strain'. However Lydiard never made it really clear what he meant by ‘quarter effort’. I have discussed Lydiard’s ideas on several occasions on my Wordpress blog. For example: canute1.wordpress.com
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